Re: [Fwd: formatting tools for Docbook]

2006-06-15 Thread Chuck Robey

Greg Barniskis wrote:


Chuck Robey wrote:


Greg Barniskis wrote:

You know, I don't want to argue about thread hijacking, I only want my 
question answered, so i will try again.  Has anyone out there used a 
tool from the ports set, to be able  to do general purpose creation and 
formatting of XML Docbook documents?  Please, if you haven't yourself 
done this (created general purpose Docbook XML documents by the use of 
FreeBSD ports-supplied tools) then please ignore this.


Specifically, this is not intended to reference the FDP tools.  It might 
be possible that the FDP tools supply a 100% 4.5 Docbook XML 
compatiblity, and if those tools occur in the FreeBSD ports (I think 
they do) theIN could care about it here, but I don't want o referenc 
ethe FDP tools at all, otherwise.  I don't have any specific intention 
to use the FDP toolset.


Outside of 100% tested compatiblity that you yourself have used in 
creating and reading non-FreeBSD documents, I really would appreciate 
not hearing about the FDP tools.

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Re: [Fwd: formatting tools for Docbook]

2006-06-15 Thread Greg Barniskis

Chuck Robey wrote:

Greg Barniskis wrote:


Chuck Robey wrote:

This is a delayed reposting of something that I might have sent to an 
initially poorly chosen list;  if it still gets no reponse in another 
day, I  might try again, if I can figure out a better FreeBSD list to 
choose.  My predilection for FreeBSD is strong, I would really 
dislike to be forced to jump to Linux (or, god forbid, to Windows) 
for this infomation, about using the various FreeBSD ports tools to 
get to the ability to format docbook materials.



Well, I wasn't trying to write FreeBSD documentation, I was trying to 
generate my own personal documentation, using a schema that would 
hopefully be far more generally available.  Back when I was using groff 
and the mm macros (yesterday!) I never would have used some locally 
tweaked version of the mm macros, unless I included those changes in my 
docs, because then no one else would be able to use my documents.  Am I 
wrong in considering the FDP generated documentation as being in that 
category, not terribly uselful outside the FreeBSD project.


That's the reason I asked about docbook in general.  Obviously, doing 
FDP stuff is made truly simple.  There isn 't some way to adapt the FDP 
installation to support he generation of more general docbook xml (such 
as the latest 4.x series stuff, I think 4.5x). ?



Best list: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc

Good starting point: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

Detailed tutorial:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

Tools: check out everything that is installed by these metaports:

textproc/docproj-jadetex
textproc/docproj-nojadetex


Sorry, I could have been more expansive and specific, but there's a 
new and extremely cranky (non-FreeBSD) server here and it's all I 
can do between its firestorms to dash off brief missives on other 
topics.


I wanted to point you at the general state of the FreeBSD community 
work with DocBook, and that project's list since they'll likely have 
the expertise you seek in general terms. I know they are not doing 
everything you asked about specifically but it's a starting point to 
explore capabilities; the metaports certainly install plenty of 
general tools and capabilities in addition to the FreeBSD specific 
stuff.


If the metaports are not interesting to you, I think you can just 
install the DocBook port, Java, and many typical DocBook tools one 
at a time (xalan, saxon, jade, fop, etc., etc.). There should be 
everything you need in the ports collection one way or another. If 
your question is "which of the dozens of XML/XSL processing tools is 
best for DocBook [4|5]", I don't know, but suspect the answer's in 
the metaports and/or the Doc Project list arena (check their 
archives and/or ask away over there).


Hope that helps more.

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Re: [Fwd: formatting tools for Docbook]

2006-06-15 Thread Chuck Robey

Greg Barniskis wrote:


Chuck Robey wrote:

This is a delayed reposting of something that I might have sent to an 
initially poorly chosen list;  if it still gets no reponse in another 
day, I  might try again, if I can figure out a better FreeBSD list to 
choose.  My predilection for FreeBSD is strong, I would really 
dislike to be forced to jump to Linux (or, god forbid, to Windows) 
for this infomation, about using the various FreeBSD ports tools to 
get to the ability to format docbook materials.



Well, I wasn't trying to write FreeBSD documentation, I was trying to 
generate my own personal documentation, using a schema that would 
hopefully be far more generally available.  Back when I was using groff 
and the mm macros (yesterday!) I never would have used some locally 
tweaked version of the mm macros, unless I included those changes in my 
docs, because then no one else would be able to use my documents.  Am I 
wrong in considering the FDP generated documentation as being in that 
category, not terribly uselful outside the FreeBSD project.


That's the reason I asked about docbook in general.  Obviously, doing 
FDP stuff is made truly simple.  There isn 't some way to adapt the FDP 
installation to support he generation of more general docbook xml (such 
as the latest 4.x series stuff, I think 4.5x). ?



Best list: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc

Good starting point: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

Detailed tutorial:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

Tools: check out everything that is installed by these metaports:

textproc/docproj-jadetex
textproc/docproj-nojadetex




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Re: [Fwd: formatting tools for Docbook]

2006-06-13 Thread Greg Barniskis

Chuck Robey wrote:
This is a delayed reposting of something that I might have sent to an 
initially poorly chosen list;  if it still gets no reponse in another 
day, I  might try again, if I can figure out a better FreeBSD list to 
choose.  My predilection for FreeBSD is strong, I would really dislike 
to be forced to jump to Linux (or, god forbid, to Windows) for this 
infomation, about using the various FreeBSD ports tools to get to the 
ability to format docbook materials.


Best list: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc

Good starting point: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

Detailed tutorial:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

Tools: check out everything that is installed by these metaports:

textproc/docproj-jadetex
textproc/docproj-nojadetex


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South Central Library System (SCLS)
Library Interchange Network (LINK)
, (608) 266-6348
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