Re: [OT] proper editor
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > >> Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > >> > >>> Hi there, I'm beginner. > >>> > >>> Please recommend for proper editor so that ... > >>> I want to practice *Python* under best environment ... > >>> > >>> vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... > >>> > >>> If you give me good advice about that, I'll study very hard ... > >>> > >>> So which one is best editor? ... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> There is no such thing as a "best" editor. Which one you know better NOW? > >> If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go > >> along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a GUI, > >> go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither > >> are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate > >> execution of commands to try out things). > >> Spending time learning a complex editor like vi or emacs, will certainly > >> pay up in the long run though. > >> > > > > Nope. I don't care what it costs. I don't care even if I have to learn a > > complex editor for long time ... > > > > To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor like > > Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional opinion;; > > > > > :) :) This is not a professional opinion, it is just a way of thinking > that may or may not apply to you in this case (or generally). > You are welcome to start learning both Python and Emacs at the same > time, and delve deep at both. In fact, there are so many editors and > programming languages available in FreeBSD you can spend an entire > lifetime learning. It *is* my exact defintion of *having fun* ! Thanks for the guidance, you've helped me. Indeed ;; -- Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> InZealBomb, Kyungpook National University, KOREA "Johnny is one of the few man with bells in this town." -- Deanna Dunn, "Chapter 13", page 182 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
> I made the decision to go with Emacs. Thank you for encouraging me ;; > PAH! Entirely wrong! Vi forever! (kidding, kidding) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 20:00 +0200, cpghost wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:09 +0900 > Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > > > Hi there, I'm beginner. > > > > > > > > Please recommend for proper editor so that ... > > > > I want to practice *Python* under best environment ... > > > > > > > > vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... > > > > To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor > > like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional > > opinion;; > > As others already pointed out, it doesn't really matter which > editor you use. Use the one you feel most comfortable with at > the moment. > > Personally, I use Emacs' (Python Mode) to edit Python programs, > and try out code snippets in the Python Shell, either from > within a separate xterm, or, sometimes from within an Emacs > shell buffer. If you're on Windows though, it's probably easier > to simply use the editor that comes with IDLE. It's good enough > for most cases and does syntax coloring too. :) I made the decision to go with Emacs. Thank you for encouraging me ;; -- Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> InZealBomb, Kyungpook National University, KOREA "I'll reason with him." -- Vito Corleone, "Chapter 14", page 200 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:09 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > > Hi there, I'm beginner. > > > > > > Please recommend for proper editor so that ... > > > I want to practice *Python* under best environment ... > > > > > > vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... > > To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor > like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional > opinion;; As others already pointed out, it doesn't really matter which editor you use. Use the one you feel most comfortable with at the moment. Personally, I use Emacs' (Python Mode) to edit Python programs, and try out code snippets in the Python Shell, either from within a separate xterm, or, sometimes from within an Emacs shell buffer. If you're on Windows though, it's probably easier to simply use the editor that comes with IDLE. It's good enough for most cases and does syntax coloring too. :) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: >> >>> Hi there, I'm beginner. >>> >>> Please recommend for proper editor so that ... >>> I want to practice *Python* under best environment ... >>> >>> vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... >>> >>> If you give me good advice about that, I'll study very hard ... >>> >>> So which one is best editor? ... >>> >>> >>> >> There is no such thing as a "best" editor. Which one you know better NOW? >> If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go >> along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a GUI, >> go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither >> are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate >> execution of commands to try out things). >> Spending time learning a complex editor like vi or emacs, will certainly >> pay up in the long run though. >> > > Nope. I don't care what it costs. I don't care even if I have to learn a > complex editor for long time ... > > To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor like > Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional opinion;; > > :) :) This is not a professional opinion, it is just a way of thinking that may or may not apply to you in this case (or generally). You are welcome to start learning both Python and Emacs at the same time, and delve deep at both. In fact, there are so many editors and programming languages available in FreeBSD you can spend an entire lifetime learning. It *is* my exact defintion of *having fun* ! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > Hi there, I'm beginner. > > > > Please recommend for proper editor so that ... > > I want to practice *Python* under best environment ... > > > > vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... > > > > If you give me good advice about that, I'll study very hard ... > > > > So which one is best editor? ... > > > > > There is no such thing as a "best" editor. Which one you know better NOW? > If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go > along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a GUI, > go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither > are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate > execution of commands to try out things). > Spending time learning a complex editor like vi or emacs, will certainly > pay up in the long run though. Nope. I don't care what it costs. I don't care even if I have to learn a complex editor for long time ... To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional opinion;; -- Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Are you willing to take my advice this time?" -- Vito Corleone, "Chapter 1", page 37 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 17:32 +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:47:17 +0300 > Manolis Kiagias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go > > along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a GUI, > > go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither > > are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate > > execution of commands to try out things). > > you can also try python inside of Eclipse, with the pydev extension. Yes, > eclipse is a big thing, but like Manolis said, it is worth learning a good > environment. What you learn about Eclipse IDE will be useful for other > languages such as Java, Perl, C++ or PHP, which can all be developed under > Eclipse. Okay, I'll also check out Eclipse, thanks! -- Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tell my father I wish to be his son." -- Michael Corleone, "Chapter 24", page 352 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] proper editor
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:47:17 +0300
Manolis Kiagias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go
> along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a GUI,
> go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither
> are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate
> execution of commands to try out things).
you can also try python inside of Eclipse, with the pydev extension. Yes,
eclipse is a big thing, but like Manolis said, it is worth learning a good
environment. What you learn about Eclipse IDE will be useful for other
languages such as Java, Perl, C++ or PHP, which can all be developed under
Eclipse.
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Re: [OT] proper editor
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > Hi there, I'm beginner. > > Please recommend for proper editor so that ... > I want to practice *Python* under best environment ... > > vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... > > If you give me good advice about that, I'll study very hard ... > > So which one is best editor? ... > > There is no such thing as a "best" editor. Which one you know better NOW? If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a GUI, go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate execution of commands to try out things). Spending time learning a complex editor like vi or emacs, will certainly pay up in the long run though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
