Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread long cao
sounds about right [took me that long as well] perhaps installing precompiled binaries? it might be faster? On Saturday 28 June 2003 11:23 am, Joe Pokupec wrote: Hi All, I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install (which included all the Ports), I went to

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Bill Moran
Joe Pokupec wrote: Hi All, I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install (which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did a: What are these machines? Processor? RAM? make install clean after reading tfm. The install has been going for over 11

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Joe Pokupec wrote: I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install (which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did a: make install clean after reading tfm. The install has been going for over 11 hours now. It's not hung up, the text is scrolling

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Marc Wiz
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 03:14:23PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: X is huge and bloated. CDE was a graphic user environment designed by a committee of Unix vendors: Sun had NeWS, OpenWindows, Motif/MWM and CDE choose the latter rather than either of the former, HP had HP/UX and that wretched

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Marc Wiz wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 03:14:23PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: X is huge and bloated. CDE was a graphic user environment designed by a committee of Unix vendors: Sun had NeWS, OpenWindows, Motif/MWM and CDE choose the latter rather than either of the former, HP had HP/UX and that

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Joe Pokupec
Hey Guys, Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed on them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for their up2date feature on each machine and decided to go back to BSD with a GUI so

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Marc Wiz
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 04:07:58PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: AIX smit makes X huge and bloated? Smit is an application which runs either curses or X for display purposes. It is certainly not to blame for X being bloated. No: MIT is to blame for X being huge and bloated. I was

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 04:07:18PM -0500, Marc Wiz wrote: ... I have worked with smit quite a bit both as a user and as a developer developing and fixing smit menus. If you would take a look under the covers you would find it uses lots of tools to do it's job. In some ways smit is a glorified

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Han Hwei Woo
- From: Joe Pokupec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Free BSD List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? Hey Guys, Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Nicolas Galler
The reason the bsd port takes longer to build is that it has to be compiled first. Redhat uses pre-compiled binaries (the rpm). You can download packages under FreeBSD - I like compiling from the ports so that I am certain I get it linked against the right version of the libraries. I used to

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread E. J. Cerejo
KDE is not part of Freebsd! I takes about 5 minutes to install FBSD on my machine! If you're referring to kde taking so long to install, it's because it has to build first from source. If you were to install kde from source in RH9 I'm sure it would take that much time also. The reason it

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread David Loszewski
precompiled for that version of FreeBSD. Dave - Original Message - From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joe Pokupec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Free BSD List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? Joe Pokupec wrote: Hi All, I

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 12:59:36PM -0800, Joe Pokupec wrote: Hey Guys, Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed on them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for their up2date

Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?

2003-06-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:59:36 -0800 Joe Pokupec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed on them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for