Re: 5.2 Help
> > > Gee, I have made a lot of bootable floppies - we used to distribute > > our system on floppy+DAT tape - and had to format all of the floppies > > in order to write boot images to them. Sometimes we even had to reformat > > floppies that were preformatted from the vendor. > If you choose to waste your time formatting the disks that is your > perogative :) > > > And double Gee, I just read through the piece on preparing the media > > from the handbook section you just posted and golly if it doesn't say > > to format the floppies yourself. So, what sup with your post? > > > > 2. Prepare the Floppy Disks > > > >You must prepare one floppy disk per image file you had to download. It is > >imperative that these disks are free from defects. The easiest way to test > >this is to format the disks for yourself. Do not trust pre-formatted > >floppies. The format utility in Windows will not tell about the presence > >of bad blocks, it simply marks them as ``bad'' and ignores them. It is > >advised that you use brand new floppies if choosing this installation route. > > ...etc... > > > Gee golly whiz Wally! If you had bothered to read the section you quoted > you would see that the _ONLY_ reason you are told to format the floppy is > to test it to make sure it is free of defects. rawrite dumps a raw disk > image to the floppy and could care less what format is on the disk when > you run it. > > The original poster seemed to be under the impression that you formatted > the disk and them copied kern.flp onto the disk. This is obviously a > mistake. > > Moreover, a floppy disk has a _raw_ capacity of 1.44 MB. Even if you don't > copy the system files to the floppy disk you will lose space on the disk > simply by formatting it because the file system itself uses up disk space. The guy was having trouble getting his Floppies working. So, if he needs to format it to get it to work, then he needs to format it. Regardless of how you read the text. He seemed to be wasting more time trying to write floppies with defects than he would have by running the format. It formats out to 1,457,644 bytes. That is what he needs. He was seeing less than that, until later. I don't think his response went to the list, though. jerry > > -Don > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 5.2 Help
> Gee, I have made a lot of bootable floppies - we used to distribute > our system on floppy+DAT tape - and had to format all of the floppies > in order to write boot images to them. Sometimes we even had to reformat > floppies that were preformatted from the vendor. If you choose to waste your time formatting the disks that is your perogative :) > And double Gee, I just read through the piece on preparing the media > from the handbook section you just posted and golly if it doesn't say > to format the floppies yourself. So, what sup with your post? > > 2. Prepare the Floppy Disks > >You must prepare one floppy disk per image file you had to download. It is >imperative that these disks are free from defects. The easiest way to test >this is to format the disks for yourself. Do not trust pre-formatted >floppies. The format utility in Windows will not tell about the presence >of bad blocks, it simply marks them as ``bad'' and ignores them. It is >advised that you use brand new floppies if choosing this installation route. > ...etc... > Gee golly whiz Wally! If you had bothered to read the section you quoted you would see that the _ONLY_ reason you are told to format the floppy is to test it to make sure it is free of defects. rawrite dumps a raw disk image to the floppy and could care less what format is on the disk when you run it. The original poster seemed to be under the impression that you formatted the disk and them copied kern.flp onto the disk. This is obviously a mistake. Moreover, a floppy disk has a _raw_ capacity of 1.44 MB. Even if you don't copy the system files to the floppy disk you will lose space on the disk simply by formatting it because the file system itself uses up disk space. -Don ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 5.2 Help
> > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:20:41 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > > >> I just purchased 5.2 FreeBSD. And with my system i can not boot from > >> the CD. So i tried to make the floppy image and when i formatted the > >> floppy it is only 1.38MB and i can not place the image on the disk. > >> What should i do. Is there another way to do this. > > > >On what system did you do the format? > >If it was on a Microsoft system, is it possible that system files > >were copied to the floppy as part of the format process. I think > >that is the /s flag, but it has been so long, I may remember wrong. > >Most of those files are "hidden". > > > >Otherwise, if you formatted it to 1.44MG and nothing else was put > >on the disk, then it must have had bad sectors which were excluded. > >That could happen either on the MS system or on the FreeBSD system. > > > >If so, just discard that floppy and try another is about all you can do. > > No. You don't "format" the floppy when building the boot disk(s). You > use the tools supplied to write the raw image file (including the > formatting) to the disk. Gee, I have made a lot of bootable floppies - we used to distribute our system on floppy+DAT tape - and had to format all of the floppies in order to write boot images to them. Sometimes we even had to reformat floppies that were preformatted from the vendor. And double Gee, I just read through the piece on preparing the media from the handbook section you just posted and golly if it doesn't say to format the floppies yourself. So, what sup with your post? > > See the handbook, section 2.2.7 > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html # 2. Prepare the Floppy Disks You must prepare one floppy disk per image file you had to download. It is imperative that these disks are free from defects. The easiest way to test this is to format the disks for yourself. Do not trust pre-formatted floppies. The format utility in Windows will not tell about the presence of bad blocks, it simply marks them as ``bad'' and ignores them. It is advised that you use brand new floppies if choosing this installation route. ...etc... # jerry > > Dave > > > -- > Any speling misteaks are the reult of a bad insallation of mod_spelink. > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 5.2 Help
> > No this happens when i format the disk on Microsoft and nothing else all > the disks are only 1.38mb. Is there another way to do it without > formatting the disk through windows before adding the image. I have tried > multiple disks and they all format with only 1.38mb left. I usually format any floppies on FreeBSD, just tried one on an MS machine sitting around here. With no /s switch I got 1,457,664 - nominally 1.44MB and then I used the /s switch and that took out about 375KB for system files which is a lot more than you are losing. So, I don't know. I never use one of those GUI format tools. I just print up an MSDOS window (MS-DOS Prompt) and type in the format command. format a: Maybe there is something weird about the format tool you are using. jerry > - Greg > > Jerry McAllister wrote: ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 5.2 Help
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:20:41 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >> I just purchased 5.2 FreeBSD. And with my system i can not boot from >> the CD. So i tried to make the floppy image and when i formatted the >> floppy it is only 1.38MB and i can not place the image on the disk. >> What should i do. Is there another way to do this. > >On what system did you do the format? >If it was on a Microsoft system, is it possible that system files >were copied to the floppy as part of the format process. I think >that is the /s flag, but it has been so long, I may remember wrong. >Most of those files are "hidden". > >Otherwise, if you formatted it to 1.44MG and nothing else was put >on the disk, then it must have had bad sectors which were excluded. >That could happen either on the MS system or on the FreeBSD system. > >If so, just discard that floppy and try another is about all you can do. No. You don't "format" the floppy when building the boot disk(s). You use the tools supplied to write the raw image file (including the formatting) to the disk. See the handbook, section 2.2.7 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html Dave -- Any speling misteaks are the reult of a bad insallation of mod_spelink. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 5.2 Help
> > I just purchased 5.2 FreeBSD. And with my system i can not boot from > the CD. So i tried to make the floppy image and when i formatted the > floppy it is only 1.38MB and i can not place the image on the disk. > What should i do. Is there another way to do this. On what system did you do the format? If it was on a Microsoft system, is it possible that system files were copied to the floppy as part of the format process. I think that is the /s flag, but it has been so long, I may remember wrong. Most of those files are "hidden". Otherwise, if you formatted it to 1.44MG and nothing else was put on the disk, then it must have had bad sectors which were excluded. That could happen either on the MS system or on the FreeBSD system. If so, just discard that floppy and try another is about all you can do. jerry > - Greg > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
