Re: 7.0 crashes
On Monday 17 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > > > > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the > > > > system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it > > > > is under heavy network load (downloading at several > > > > megabytes/second). > > > > > > > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, > > > > and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, > > > > so ideas would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a > > > similar problem had I: random crashes under network > > > load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. > > > > > > Try replacing your NIC. > > > > Thanks for your answer. > > > > The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a > > few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that > > was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this > > particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking > > in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server > > over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to > > replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. > > I couldn't possibly say in your case, but in mine it was > a 3com xl nic that had simply gone crackers. > > Any time I get weird, dumpless reboots I suspect hard- > ware. Or Thor. One time I had this kind of trouble and although memtest didn't find any problems with the memory, replacing it still solved the problem. Hardware problems are really difficult to diagnose. -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 crashes
On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > > > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the > > > system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it > > > is under heavy network load (downloading at several > > > megabytes/second). > > > > > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, > > > and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, > > > so ideas would be much appreciated. > > > > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a > > similar problem had I: random crashes under network > > load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. > > > > Try replacing your NIC. > > > Thanks for your answer. > > The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a > few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that > was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this > particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking > in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server > over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to > replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. I couldn't possibly say in your case, but in mine it was a 3com xl nic that had simply gone crackers. Any time I get weird, dumpless reboots I suspect hard- ware. Or Thor. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 crashes
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:08:44AM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote: > Thanks for your answer. > > The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a > few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that > was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this > particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking > in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server > over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to > replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. Read the BUGS section of rl(4) and weep. It seems to be a case of poorly documented or defined behavior on the part of the chip. Having said that, I've used rl(4) based network cards in workstations without problems. But then my outbound line is 2 mbit ADSL, which won't even come close to seriously loading the hardware. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpl8xVOjdJk8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 7.0 crashes
On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings > > > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the > > system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it > > is under heavy network load (downloading at several > > megabytes/second). > > > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, > > and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, > > so ideas would be much appreciated. > > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a > similar problem had I: random crashes under network > load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. > > Try replacing your NIC. Thanks for your answer. The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. Firas -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments GnuPG public key: http://itsuki.fkraiem.org/gpgkey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 crashes
On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the system > just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it is under > heavy network load (downloading at several megabytes/second). > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, and > I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, so ideas > would be much appreciated. > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a similar problem had I: random crashes under network load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. Try replacing your NIC. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"