Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:25:15 -0600 eculp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Flash is becoming more dominate daily and there are many sites that are basically unusable without it. Some banking, telco, etc. sites, etc. That are difficult if not impossible too use for account access without flash and don't pay much attention to end user requests based on the installed base of Flash[89]. That brings up another detail, many sites now require Flash[89] even though they don't actually need it probably to impress their customers with their being on the technological, bleeding edge. Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP PC operational. At least Window's Internet Explorer, despite its real or alleged problems, can correctly access virtually any site I want or need to visit. As the above poster stated, being able to correctly and expeditiously navigate through a banking site is an important criteria. I belong to a state 'Officials Association' that deals with officiating High School sports. Their site is written in such a way that Flash with either Windows Media Player or QuickTime are required to properly view the site. Try as I might, I have never gotten either Opera or Firefox using FBSD to correctly view that site. I basically just gave up on it. The same problem exists with many sites sponsored by Google for instance. If this was 1990, perhaps I could understand it. However, considering the present state of computing, the fact that plug-ins like Flash are not simple drop-in applets, similar to the way Internet Explorer handles them, is simply not acceptable. Just my 2ยข. -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] The next unpopular group to have its rights taken away should be illegal aliens. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Gerard wrote: snip I belong to a state 'Officials Association' that deals with officiating High School sports. Their site is written in such a way that Flash with either Windows Media Player or QuickTime are required to properly view the site. So their message is, We're not interested in people who don't use windows. There is not anything that the FreeBSD community can do about that. Try as I might, I have never gotten either Opera or Firefox using FBSD to correctly view that site. I basically just gave up on it. The same problem exists with many sites sponsored by Google for instance. If this was 1990, perhaps I could understand it. However, considering the present state of computing, the fact that plug-ins like Flash are not simple drop-in applets, similar to the way Internet Explorer handles them, is simply not acceptable. Then go and complain to the people who wrote flash. If they want to release plugins for Firefox on FreeBSD they can do so. Since Flash is closed-source, there isn't a lot people in the FreeBSD community can do about it. There are several groups working on open-source implementations of Flash, but these efforts are incomplete due to lack of documentation and possibly volunteers. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpkHs1WfKxHd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP flash is a proprietary feature, which doesn't run FreeBSD. you may try to use linux browsers under emulation, you may use windows or do whatever else. using windows could be even better as most crappy sites are designed having only windows in mind and (w)internet explorer. or - like me, you may simply don't use it. i have a lot of choices about what bank to use, and the usability of web banking on MY (html/http compatible anyway) system was important. the bank i chose doesn't only run without flash and java, it just have best of all webservice, and have best bank offer anyway. i do EVERYTHING through internet, being actually once in their office. i think there is something similar in your country. if others require flash7, java or other craps, they just don't want me to be their client. same with every other sites. nothing wrong if they use flash to make some animation, but with site completely usable without this. if it's unusable - it means they don't like people like me to use/read that page. so i don't read and say no thanks to tell you the truth - such site are usually not useful even without flash :) so - while i've tested linux-opera port working with flash7, i just don't use it, and use native opera (and links-gui). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP or - like me, you may simply don't use it. ... if others require flash7, java or other craps, they just don't want me to be their client. ... I cannot express the extent of my loathing for Flash (and JavaScript). Unfortunately, as has been stated, many businesses employ such evils. In some cases it is nice to tell them to piss off, in others that is beyond the realm of possibility. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
