Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:28:05PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:51:08PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  Gary Kline wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:00PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:
  On 2/14/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
 antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
 some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
 one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If
 memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
 adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
 dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
 card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding?
  
 Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.
  
  I solved most of my sound problems by taking actions reading
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
  
  regards
  Dak
  
  
 Hm.  I forgot about adding the hints.*; but catenating
 /dev/sndstat indicates that I use snd_sb16.ko and compiling that
 in gives me a bunch of fatal undefines.  So I added snd_sbc
 to the KERNCONF and am recompiling.  
  
 Shouldn't be this hard; this worked with REdhat, just
 straightaway.  
  
 gary
  
  What model's the card (or what does pciconf -lv report at least)?
 
 
   This is strange.  A couple hours ago I kldloaded a few modules
   and saw that the card was my missing AWE64.  Now, when I load
   snd_sb16, it looks like an ISA SB 16.  It could be either.
   Note that if I load just snd_sb.ko, cat'ing /dev/sndstat returns
   zip.
   Still trying...
 

Interesting: I scripted them ALL in and ind that there are TWO
sound cards::

pcm0: SB16 DSP 4.16 at io 0x240 irq 9 drq 1:5 bufsz 4096 kld snd_sb16
(1p/1r/0v channels duplex default)
pcm1: AD1816 at io 0x500 irq 5 drq 0:3 bufsz 8192 kld snd_ad1816
(1p/1r/0v channels duplex)

Suggestions?


   gary
 
 
  -Garrett
  
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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-15 Thread Garrett Cooper

Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:28:05PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:51:08PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:

Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:00PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:

On 2/14/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
  antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
  some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
  one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If
  memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
  adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
  dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
  card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding?

  Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.

I solved most of my sound problems by taking actions reading

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html

regards
Dak


Hm.  I forgot about adding the hints.*; but catenating
/dev/sndstat indicates that I use snd_sb16.ko and compiling that
in gives me a bunch of fatal undefines.  So I added snd_sbc
	to the KERNCONF and am recompiling.  


Shouldn't be this hard; this worked with REdhat, just
straightaway.  

gary

What model's the card (or what does pciconf -lv report at least)?


This is strange.  A couple hours ago I kldloaded a few modules
and saw that the card was my missing AWE64.  Now, when I load
snd_sb16, it looks like an ISA SB 16.  It could be either.
Note that if I load just snd_sb.ko, cat'ing /dev/sndstat returns
zip.
Still trying...



Interesting: I scripted them ALL in and ind that there are TWO
sound cards::

pcm0: SB16 DSP 4.16 at io 0x240 irq 9 drq 1:5 bufsz 4096 kld snd_sb16
(1p/1r/0v channels duplex default)
pcm1: AD1816 at io 0x500 irq 5 drq 0:3 bufsz 8192 kld snd_ad1816
(1p/1r/0v channels duplex)

Suggestions?



gary



-Garrett


Not 100% sure, but it looks like your soundcard involves the sb driver 
and there might be a separate driver for your card:


http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2007-February/206411.html

Cheers,
-Garrett
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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:14:25AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:28:05PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:51:08PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:00PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:
 On 2/14/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
   antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
   some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
   one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If
   memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
   adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
   dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
   card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding?
 
   Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.
 I solved most of my sound problems by taking actions reading
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
 
 regards
 Dak
 
   Hm.  I forgot about adding the hints.*; but catenating
   /dev/sndstat indicates that I use snd_sb16.ko and compiling that
   in gives me a bunch of fatal undefines.  So I added snd_sbc
   to the KERNCONF and am recompiling.  
 
   Shouldn't be this hard; this worked with REdhat, just
   straightaway.  
 
   gary
 What model's the card (or what does pciconf -lv report at least)?
 
 This is strange.  A couple hours ago I kldloaded a few modules
 and saw that the card was my missing AWE64.  Now, when I load
 snd_sb16, it looks like an ISA SB 16.  It could be either.
 Note that if I load just snd_sb.ko, cat'ing /dev/sndstat returns
 zip.
 Still trying...
 
 
  Interesting: I scripted them ALL in and ind that there are TWO
  sound cards::
 
 pcm0: SB16 DSP 4.16 at io 0x240 irq 9 drq 1:5 bufsz 4096 kld snd_sb16
 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex default)
 pcm1: AD1816 at io 0x500 irq 5 drq 0:3 bufsz 8192 kld snd_ad1816
 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
 
  Suggestions?
 
 
 gary
 
 
 -Garrett
 
 Not 100% sure, but it looks like your soundcard involves the sb driver 
 and there might be a separate driver for your card:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2007-February/206411.html


Looks the the header files were checked into CVS but howto
retrieve?  I did a full-bore update of 6.2 and didn't see 
anything new (timestamp-wise) in the sound/ directories... .

I'll rebuild and  reinstall.

Anyway: experimentation has taught me that the snd_ad1816.ko 
at least drives the BEL speaker.  So, while I hear the
log[in|out] fuzzily, the other WAV sounds are clear.  Another
thing: with snd_driver.ko installed (by /boot/loader.conf)
I have *no* sound; with just the keydb driver at YES the 
internal speaker works.  And the tiny red [x] is not
displayed.)  With snd_sb16.ko or snd_sbc.ko I get some results
by catenating /dev/sndstat.  But zero sound.  cat foo /dev/dsp
is not permitted as a test.  [ That html sound page is seriously
out of date! ]  

The only possibilities I can see are a bad sound card or the 
banana plug in the wrong jack [ doubt].

(*)

gary

 
 Cheers,
 -Garrett
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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-14 Thread Garrett Cooper

Gary Kline wrote:

I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
	one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If 
	memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried

adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
	card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding? 


Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.

	thanks, 


gary


esound running in the background, maybe? Memory serves me correctly that 
was gnome's sound daemon of choice (ew...).

-Garrett
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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 06:38:14PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
  I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
  antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
  some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
  one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If 
  memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
  adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
  dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
  card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding? 
 
  Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.
 
  thanks, 
 
  gary
 
 esound running in the background, maybe? Memory serves me correctly that 
 was gnome's sound daemon of choice (ew...).

A cat /dev/sndstat says that my old AWE64 is there.  (I'm 
doing a make kernel now; be done wee-hours?!)  Anyway a 
kldload [sound|snd_sb16] and the tiny red x is beside the
spkr in the upper right.   Still head-scratching.

Anybody else know what's going on?

gary

PS: esound?  
 -Garrett
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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-14 Thread Dak Ghatikachalam

On 2/14/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If
memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding?

Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.



I solved most of my sound problems by taking actions reading

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html

regards
Dak

   thanks,


gary


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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:00PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:
 On 2/14/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
 antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
 some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
 one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If
 memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
 adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
 dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
 card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding?
 
 Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.
 
 
 I solved most of my sound problems by taking actions reading
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
 
 regards
 Dak
 

Hm.  I forgot about adding the hints.*; but catenating
/dev/sndstat indicates that I use snd_sb16.ko and compiling that
in gives me a bunch of fatal undefines.  So I added snd_sbc
to the KERNCONF and am recompiling.  

Shouldn't be this hard; this worked with REdhat, just
straightaway.  

gary




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Re: Any way to probe snd card?

2007-02-14 Thread Garrett Cooper

Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:00PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:

On 2/14/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   I'm pretty stunned at how well gnome2 works on my
   antique 400MHz backup system.  [[ gnome2-lite wouldn't go, for
   some reason [?] ]]  Anyway, I do have a sound card in this
   one, but which *.ko I load or compile is the question.  If
   memory serves, I think this has  a Matrox card.  I've tried
   adding a few sound [snd_*.ko] files, but no sound.  The OSS
   dialogs open, but the tests produce no sound..  Would the sound
   card show up in dmesg if there were a sound card hiding?

   Any help out there?  This old box is an HP Kayak XU/XW.


I solved most of my sound problems by taking actions reading

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html

regards
Dak



Hm.  I forgot about adding the hints.*; but catenating
/dev/sndstat indicates that I use snd_sb16.ko and compiling that
in gives me a bunch of fatal undefines.  So I added snd_sbc
	to the KERNCONF and am recompiling.  


Shouldn't be this hard; this worked with REdhat, just
straightaway.  

gary


What model's the card (or what does pciconf -lv report at least)?
-Garrett

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