From: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 11:26:30 PM
Subject: Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
Hey guys.this thread is really starting to stink. Take it outside.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
. . . and, somehow, social convention tells me it would be rude to let
this person know (for next time) that everything will be much easier for
everyone if the data is just left in its original format.
Oh, I'd have sent an email saying
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:08:59PM -0500, David Scheidt wrote:
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
. . . and, somehow, social convention tells me it would be rude to
let this person know (for next time) that everything will be much
easier for everyone if the data is just
message from Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:42:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com
To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
...
Oh and just in case...I use Asterisk on FreeBSD-8.2-STABLE
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:34:51 -0400, Jerry wrote:
Would you care to elaborate on that statement? Is your prejudice based
on the fact that there is nothing in the open-source community that can
even begin to match the robustness and ease of use of MS Office, [...]
Are you refering to the
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:30:46 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
It's not prejudice. That assumes I prejudge. My judgment is based on
years of fighting with the BS features of office suites of all
descriptions for years, and loathing every minute of it. I don't care
whether they're open source,
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:22:48 -0400, Jerry wrote:
Open or closed makes no relative difference to me or the majority of
users as has been demonstrated numerous time with various software
titles.
The majority doesn't always have to be quantitative. (Rosa Luxemburg)
Average home users avoid
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:36:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:30:46 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
It's not prejudice. That assumes I prejudge. My judgment is based
on years of fighting with the BS features of office suites of all
descriptions for years, and loathing
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:24 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:36:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
You can easily deduct what happens when the table of contents changes,
or when the font size changes. Hell, I've even seen people doing two
column documents with spaces.
This email actually mentions Skype and SIP phones toward the end.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 06:29:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:24 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I still managed to do everything I needed to do in under twenty
minutes, but if the data had been left in the
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:04:28 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
This email actually mentions Skype and SIP phones toward the end.
Much appreviated. :-)
In general, the simplest possible format to achieve what is actually
needed is the best option.
True.
This means that even LaTeX is usually
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:44:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:04:28 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
This means that even LaTeX is usually the wrong choice.
LaTeX is for typesetting text (articles, books, technical documents,
maybe even letters) - nothing more, nothing less.
El día Saturday, June 18, 2011 a las 10:24:21PM -0700, Yuri escribió:
On 06/18/2011 22:10, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Try this for building ekiga from SVN/git:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD
It does use GTK and works in FreeBSD.
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:23:15 +0100
Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk articulated:
I think we have to wait for somebody to write a Skype clone and
hopefully MS taking over Skype will provide the impetus (MS will drop
the linux port as soon as they can).
Yes, more FUD. No one, including the OP has
I am out of the office until June 20th. I will only have intermittent access to
email. I will read and reply to your message when I get back to the office.
If you need assistance with a Berkeley DB or Product Management issue while I
am away, please contact ashok.jo...@oracle.com.
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:27:04 -0700 (PDT)
Dave Segleau dave.segl...@oracle.com articulated:
I am out of the office until June 20th. I will only have intermittent
access to email. I will read and reply to your message when I get
back to the office.
If you need assistance with a Berkeley DB
Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:27:04 -0700 (PDT)
Dave Segleau dave.segl...@oracle.com articulated:
I am out of the office until June 20th. I will only have intermittent
access to email. I will read and reply to your message when I get
back to the office.
If you need assistance with
The fact Microsoft did buy Skype, does worry me too.
The Skype protocol is a closed protocol. SIP is an open standard.
And about Microsoft ? Almost EVERYTHING in hands of Microsoft
turns to a disaster or something which does compromise security,
privacy or whatever. They can't make a secured
... I hate to say this but they made Bungie into something really good.
But I miss Marathon.
On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Jurgen Debo wrote:
And about Microsoft ? Almost EVERYTHING in hands of Microsoft
turns to a disaster or something which does compromise security,
privacy or whatever.
From http://www.jitsi.org/ (formerly SIP Communicator) All this, and more,
in Jitsi - the most complete and advanced open source ... With a little bit
of extra bravery you can also easily build and run it on FreeBSD. and
[all] you need is a recent JDK and ANT.
Good luck with that.
Mark
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:50:44 +0200
Jurgen Debo articulated:
The fact Microsoft did buy Skype, does worry me too.
The Skype protocol is a closed protocol. SIP is an open standard.
Open or closed makes no relative difference to me or the majority of
users as has been demonstrated numerous time
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:49:49 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
I eagerly await the day when office suites go the way of the dodo. I
think people use them more due to a form of Stockholm Syndrome than
out of any specific need, in most cases.
Would you care to elaborate on that statement? Is your
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:22:48AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:50:44 +0200 Jurgen Debo articulated:
The fact Microsoft did buy Skype, does worry me too. The Skype
protocol is a closed protocol. SIP is an open standard.
Open or closed makes no relative difference to me or
Hello Jerry
2011/6/19 Jerry je...@seibercom.net
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:50:44 +0200
Jurgen Debo articulated:
The fact Microsoft did buy Skype, does worry me too.
The Skype protocol is a closed protocol. SIP is an open standard.
Open or closed makes no relative difference to me or the
Wow. this thread really took a turn for the worse. So getting back to the main
topic about SIP phones, I have been using SIP phones since 2006 and I never
found anything that worked under FreeBSD. Mainly for this reason and this
reason
seems to mirror where this thread went off topic.
While I
On 06/18/2011 10:19, Yuri wrote:
I tried ekiga but it doesn't work. It gets into standby mode and stays
this way. I think it's because of firewall. There is the PR for this.
I looked into Empathy. On Linux telepathy-sofiasip should be installed
to add SIP to empathy, and on FreeBSD there is no
В Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:19:33 -0700
Yuri y...@rawbw.com пишет:
I tried ekiga but it doesn't work. It gets into standby mode and
stays this way. I think it's because of firewall. There is the PR for
this. I looked into Empathy. On Linux telepathy-sofiasip should be
installed to add SIP to
On 06/18/2011 10:32, Ivan Klymenko wrote:
I also can not get ekiga to work even after trying to configure a
firewall and router, guided by the following instructions:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Internet_ports_used_by_Ekiga
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Enable_port_forwarding_manually
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:19:33AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
I tried ekiga but it doesn't work. It gets into standby mode and stays
this way. I think it's because of firewall. There is the PR for this.
I looked into Empathy. On Linux telepathy-sofiasip should be installed
to add SIP to empathy,
On 06/18/2011 11:03, Frank Shute wrote:
Skype works. You need a reasonably recent 7 or 8 STABLE or CURRENT and
the linux-f10 stuff. There are a number of skype ports; you want to
use net-im/skype.
I use skype and trying to get rid of it. For security reasons. Also for
the reason that MS
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
I tried ekiga but it doesn't work. It gets into standby mode and stays this
way. I think it's because of firewall. There is the PR for this.
Just to rule out the obvious, are you sure you've configured the *audio*
ports and the mixer
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 02:33:06PM -0700, Yuri wrote:
On 06/18/2011 14:23, Frank Shute wrote:
I was going to use Ekiga but it's dependency on qt and my small SSD
meant it was a no go. As another poster mentioned, I wasn't overly
impressed that you have to muck about with your router etc.
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:23:15 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
I think we have to wait for somebody to write a Skype clone and
hopefully MS taking over Skype will provide the impetus (MS will drop
the linux port as soon as they can).
Some time ago I've read (at least I _think_ I read it) that
someone
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:23:15 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
I think we have to wait for somebody to write a Skype clone and
hopefully MS taking over Skype will provide the impetus (MS will drop
the linux port as soon as they can).
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:44:11 +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:23:15 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
I think we have to wait for somebody to write a Skype clone and
hopefully MS taking over Skype will provide the
El día Saturday, June 18, 2011 a las 11:32:02PM +0100, Frank Shute escribió:
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 02:33:06PM -0700, Yuri wrote:
Actually, ekiga is GTK app and isn't supposed to use any Qt.
That's what I thought before I started building it but it dragged in
all the qt stuff for
On 06/18/2011 22:10, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Try this for building ekiga from SVN/git:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD
It does use GTK and works in FreeBSD.
This HOWTO is truly amazing. Why don't they just fix the FreeBSD port
instead of
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