Re: Automatic Firewall software?

2004-10-15 Thread Richard Verwayen
On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 04:09, Vulpes Velox wrote:

  Doesn't Portsentry ignore ports that have a service bound to them
  like the SSH daemon? In that case, it wouldn't help Brian's problem,
  since ssh is running, portsentry would ignore any attacks to port
  22, right?
 
 Move it and the like to a non-common port if one can. :)

Security by obscurity???


NO! 

There is a tiny little configuration file to change portsentries
behaviour! So tell portsentry not to listen on used ports!

Richard

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Re: Automatic Firewall software?

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Pauly
Doesn't Portsentry ignore ports that have a service bound to them like
the SSH daemon? In that case, it wouldn't help Brian's problem, since
ssh is running, portsentry would ignore any attacks to port 22, right?
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Re: Automatic Firewall software?

2004-10-14 Thread Paul Schmehl
Frankly I hadn't thought of that.  You can configure portsentry to monitor 
any port *and* to ignore certain hosts, so I would think it could monitor 
port 22 although I haven't tested it personally.

--On Thursday, October 14, 2004 02:07:24 PM -0500 Peter Pauly 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Doesn't Portsentry ignore ports that have a service bound to them like
the SSH daemon? In that case, it wouldn't help Brian's problem, since
ssh is running, portsentry would ignore any attacks to port 22, right?

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu
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Re: Automatic Firewall software?

2004-10-14 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:07:24 -0500
Peter Pauly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doesn't Portsentry ignore ports that have a service bound to them
 like the SSH daemon? In that case, it wouldn't help Brian's problem,
 since ssh is running, portsentry would ignore any attacks to port
 22, right?

Move it and the like to a non-common port if one can. :)
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Re: Automatic Firewall software?

2004-10-13 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:04:24 AM -0400 Brian J. McGovern 
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Rather than having to hang over my machine is there any software out
there that will monitor logs (e.g. /var/log/messages), parse out failed
logins like this, and run an ipfw command to block it? Perhaps something
can be done via PAM?
Yes.  Look at the Sentry Tools project at Sourceforge. 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/sentrytools/)  In particular, portsentry 
will do exactly what you want.  It will throw up a temporary rule in ipfw 
blocking the host.  (I say temporary because when you restart ipfw it will 
go away.)  It will also add the host to your /etc/hosts.allow file, 
blocking it permanently from accessing privileged services.

An added extra bonus would be if it would unblock after some period
of time, in case a legit. user bungles their password, and can't get in
(saves the service call).
It won't do that, but you can just run ipfw show and then delete the rule. 
Then you can add that host to the portsentry.ignore file, and it will never 
happen again.  (Or you can do it proactively if you know the hosts or 
networks your users will be coming from.)

I've been using it for years.  Works very well, but be careful.  On a large 
server with lots of activity, you probably want to start by not blocking 
anything until you're comfortable with your ignore file.

I also use logsentry on a number of hosts.  Very nice program.  Both are 
well written and quite mature.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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http://www.utdallas.edu
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