Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:45:58PM +0100, QADMOS wrote:

 Gelsema, P (Patrick) a écrit :
 On Sun, December 23, 2007 23:04, QADMOS wrote:
   
 Jonathan Horne a écrit :
 
 On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:
 
   
 Hi everyone,
 
 i'm having a hard time with bind9.
 
 I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.
 
 Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this
 
 error message :
   rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
 
 I've reviewed my conf files but frankly i couldn't see what was wrong.
 I've actually rewritten them from scratch several times to really check
 that nothing was missing and couldn't see anything was wrong. The
 localhost.rev file is configured correctly. I've also tried to
 regenerate new rndc.keys and edit named.conf accordingly but to no
 avail.
 
 I've also considered a possible file permissions in /etc/namedb and in
 /var/run/named issue but that didn't yield much either.
 
 Finally the biggest trouble is that nothing is logged in any log file !
 nothing in /var/log/messages nothing in /var/log/all.log nothing
 anywhere so i'm really confused here about what direction to
 investigate.
 
 Has anyone ever encountered such an issue ?
 
 Thx in advance for any help.
 
 
 do you get same problem with:
 
 /etc/rc.d/named start
 
 ?
 
 
   
 Well i've also tried that actually and when i do that :
 1/ nothing is logged
 2/ nothing is launched either
 
 
 Do you have the following in rc.conf?
 
 hulk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep named
 named_enable=YES
 
 To me it seems your problem lies in the fact that named is not starting,
 so rndc can not control anything.
 
 Rgds,
 
 Patrick
 
   
 there's just no error message despite that the named is not running
 (checked with ps waux | grep named )
 
 
 Well Patrick i followed your suggestion and rebooted (it didn't do much 
 after just editing rc.conf) the box and now /etc/rc.d/named start 
 works fine annd named is running, 'rndc' still has the same problem 
 though (???)
 
 I'm a bit befuddled though, because i don't understand why it's 
 necessary to use the named_enable directive to have named running ? I 
 understand this is necessary if you want the daemon to run at boot time 
 but why is this necessary if you want to run it manually once the box is 
 on ?

Well, if you use the rc script or any of the other scripts that might
be supplied with it to start it, then that script checks that variable - 
namely 'named_enable' and if it is not set, the script exits without
doing anything.

jerry

 
 In any case thx a lot for your help :)
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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 i'm having a hard time with bind9.

 I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.

 Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this

 error message :
   rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

 I've reviewed my conf files but frankly i couldn't see what was wrong.
 I've actually rewritten them from scratch several times to really check
 that nothing was missing and couldn't see anything was wrong. The
 localhost.rev file is configured correctly. I've also tried to
 regenerate new rndc.keys and edit named.conf accordingly but to no avail.

 I've also considered a possible file permissions in /etc/namedb and in
 /var/run/named issue but that didn't yield much either.

 Finally the biggest trouble is that nothing is logged in any log file !
 nothing in /var/log/messages nothing in /var/log/all.log nothing
 anywhere so i'm really confused here about what direction to investigate.

 Has anyone ever encountered such an issue ?

 Thx in advance for any help.

do you get same problem with:

/etc/rc.d/named start

?

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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread QADMOS



Jonathan Horne a écrit :

On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:
  

Hi everyone,

i'm having a hard time with bind9.

I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.

Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this

error message :
  rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

I've reviewed my conf files but frankly i couldn't see what was wrong.
I've actually rewritten them from scratch several times to really check
that nothing was missing and couldn't see anything was wrong. The
localhost.rev file is configured correctly. I've also tried to
regenerate new rndc.keys and edit named.conf accordingly but to no avail.

I've also considered a possible file permissions in /etc/namedb and in
/var/run/named issue but that didn't yield much either.

Finally the biggest trouble is that nothing is logged in any log file !
nothing in /var/log/messages nothing in /var/log/all.log nothing
anywhere so i'm really confused here about what direction to investigate.

Has anyone ever encountered such an issue ?

Thx in advance for any help.



do you get same problem with:

/etc/rc.d/named start

?

  


Well i've also tried that actually and when i do that :
1/ nothing is logged
2/ nothing is launched either

there's just no error message despite that the named is not running 
(checked with ps waux | grep named )



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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Gelsema, P (Patrick)
On Sun, December 23, 2007 23:04, QADMOS wrote:


 Jonathan Horne a écrit :
 On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 i'm having a hard time with bind9.

 I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.

 Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this

 error message :
   rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

 I've reviewed my conf files but frankly i couldn't see what was wrong.
 I've actually rewritten them from scratch several times to really check
 that nothing was missing and couldn't see anything was wrong. The
 localhost.rev file is configured correctly. I've also tried to
 regenerate new rndc.keys and edit named.conf accordingly but to no
 avail.

 I've also considered a possible file permissions in /etc/namedb and in
 /var/run/named issue but that didn't yield much either.

 Finally the biggest trouble is that nothing is logged in any log file !
 nothing in /var/log/messages nothing in /var/log/all.log nothing
 anywhere so i'm really confused here about what direction to
 investigate.

 Has anyone ever encountered such an issue ?

 Thx in advance for any help.


 do you get same problem with:

 /etc/rc.d/named start

 ?



 Well i've also tried that actually and when i do that :
 1/ nothing is logged
 2/ nothing is launched either

Do you have the following in rc.conf?

hulk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep named
named_enable=YES

To me it seems your problem lies in the fact that named is not starting,
so rndc can not control anything.

Rgds,

Patrick


 there's just no error message despite that the named is not running
 (checked with ps waux | grep named )


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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread QADMOS

Gelsema, P (Patrick) a écrit :

On Sun, December 23, 2007 23:04, QADMOS wrote:
  

Jonathan Horne a écrit :


On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:

  

Hi everyone,

i'm having a hard time with bind9.

I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.

Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this

error message :
  rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

I've reviewed my conf files but frankly i couldn't see what was wrong.
I've actually rewritten them from scratch several times to really check
that nothing was missing and couldn't see anything was wrong. The
localhost.rev file is configured correctly. I've also tried to
regenerate new rndc.keys and edit named.conf accordingly but to no
avail.

I've also considered a possible file permissions in /etc/namedb and in
/var/run/named issue but that didn't yield much either.

Finally the biggest trouble is that nothing is logged in any log file !
nothing in /var/log/messages nothing in /var/log/all.log nothing
anywhere so i'm really confused here about what direction to
investigate.

Has anyone ever encountered such an issue ?

Thx in advance for any help.



do you get same problem with:

/etc/rc.d/named start

?


  

Well i've also tried that actually and when i do that :
1/ nothing is logged
2/ nothing is launched either



Do you have the following in rc.conf?

hulk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep named
named_enable=YES

To me it seems your problem lies in the fact that named is not starting,
so rndc can not control anything.

Rgds,

Patrick

  

there's just no error message despite that the named is not running
(checked with ps waux | grep named )



Well Patrick i followed your suggestion and rebooted (it didn't do much 
after just editing rc.conf) the box and now /etc/rc.d/named start 
works fine annd named is running, 'rndc' still has the same problem 
though (???)


I'm a bit befuddled though, because i don't understand why it's 
necessary to use the named_enable directive to have named running ? I 
understand this is necessary if you want the daemon to run at boot time 
but why is this necessary if you want to run it manually once the box is 
on ?


In any case thx a lot for your help :)
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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Glen Barber
My apologies for the blank post.   Apparently, I became a bit trigger happy 
while setting up Kmail for mailing lists.
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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Glen Barber
On Sunday 23 December 2007 05:45:58 pm QADMOS wrote:



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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Jonathan Horne

QADMOS wrote:

Gelsema, P (Patrick) a écrit :

On Sun, December 23, 2007 23:04, QADMOS wrote:
 

Jonathan Horne a écrit :
   

On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

i'm having a hard time with bind9.

I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.

Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this

error message :
  rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

I've reviewed my conf files but frankly i couldn't see what was 
wrong.
I've actually rewritten them from scratch several times to really 
check

that nothing was missing and couldn't see anything was wrong. The
localhost.rev file is configured correctly. I've also tried to
regenerate new rndc.keys and edit named.conf accordingly but to no
avail.

I've also considered a possible file permissions in /etc/namedb 
and in

/var/run/named issue but that didn't yield much either.

Finally the biggest trouble is that nothing is logged in any log 
file !

nothing in /var/log/messages nothing in /var/log/all.log nothing
anywhere so i'm really confused here about what direction to
investigate.

Has anyone ever encountered such an issue ?

Thx in advance for any help.



do you get same problem with:

/etc/rc.d/named start

?


  

Well i've also tried that actually and when i do that :
1/ nothing is logged
2/ nothing is launched either



Do you have the following in rc.conf?

hulk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep named
named_enable=YES

To me it seems your problem lies in the fact that named is not starting,
so rndc can not control anything.

Rgds,

Patrick

 

there's just no error message despite that the named is not running
(checked with ps waux | grep named )



Well Patrick i followed your suggestion and rebooted (it didn't do 
much after just editing rc.conf) the box and now /etc/rc.d/named 
start works fine annd named is running, 'rndc' still has the same 
problem though (???)


I'm a bit befuddled though, because i don't understand why it's 
necessary to use the named_enable directive to have named running ? I 
understand this is necessary if you want the daemon to run at boot 
time but why is this necessary if you want to run it manually once the 
box is on ?


In any case thx a lot for your help :)


the entries in the rc.conf are there for system security.  [something] 
might be installed, but its not supposed to be allowed to run unless the 
system admin knows about it.


otherwise, there is always 'forcestart' intead of 'start'.

cheers,

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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Darren Spruell
On Dec 23, 2007 3:45 PM, QADMOS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gelsema, P (Patrick) a écrit :

  On Sun, December 23, 2007 23:04, QADMOS wrote:
 
  Jonathan Horne a écrit :
 
  On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:52:43 pm QADMOS wrote:
 
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  i'm having a hard time with bind9.
 
  I'm trying to set up an authoritative dns server.
 
  Unfortunately when i try to launch it with an 'rndc start' i get this
 
  error message :
rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
 
 
  do you get same problem with:
 
  /etc/rc.d/named start
 
  Well i've also tried that actually and when i do that :
  1/ nothing is logged
  2/ nothing is launched either
 
 
  Do you have the following in rc.conf?
 
  hulk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep named
  named_enable=YES
 
  To me it seems your problem lies in the fact that named is not starting,
  so rndc can not control anything.
 
  Rgds,
 
  Patrick
 
 
  there's just no error message despite that the named is not running
  (checked with ps waux | grep named )
 

 Well Patrick i followed your suggestion and rebooted (it didn't do much
 after just editing rc.conf) the box and now /etc/rc.d/named start
 works fine annd named is running, 'rndc' still has the same problem
 though (???)

 I'm a bit befuddled though, because i don't understand why it's
 necessary to use the named_enable directive to have named running ? I
 understand this is necessary if you want the daemon to run at boot time
 but why is this necessary if you want to run it manually once the box is
 on ?

/etc/rc.d/named is the rc script to control (start, stop etc.) named,
and this script is inactive unless  you've specified that named is
to be enabled using the named_enable variable. You can get around the
need to activate the variable by prefixing your commands with the
'force' keyword (e.g. /etc/rc.d/named forcestart, etc.)

Use sockstat(1) to figure out if the control port (953/tcp) is
listening. 'sockstat -4l' should show a listener on 127.0.0.1:953.

Also, 'start' is not a valid command to rndc. You would have a chicken
and egg problem; if named has not been started, then there is no
service to handle the start command to rndc. Use the rc script to
start named and rndc to control its runtime operation.

DS
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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 24 December 2007 02:15, Jonathan Horne wrote:

 otherwise, there is always 'forcestart' intead of 'start'.

and Darren Spruell wrote:

 You can get around the need to activate the variable by 
 prefixing your commands with the 'force' keyword (e.g.
 /etc/rc.d/named forcestart, etc.) 

To start a service which isn't enabled in rc.conf, it's better to use

onestart

From the rc.subr(8) manpage:

force  Skip the checks for rcvar being set to ``YES'', and
   sets rc_force=YES.  This ignores argument_precmd
   returning non-zero, and ignores any of the required_*
   tests failing, and always returns a zero exit status.

oneSkip the checks for rcvar being set to ``YES'', but
   performs all the other prerequisite tests.

Jonathan
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Re: BIND9 won't start

2007-12-23 Thread Darren Spruell
On Dec 23, 2007 10:43 PM, Jonathan McKeown
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 On Monday 24 December 2007 02:15, Jonathan Horne wrote:

  otherwise, there is always 'forcestart' intead of 'start'.

 and Darren Spruell wrote:

  You can get around the need to activate the variable by
  prefixing your commands with the 'force' keyword (e.g.
  /etc/rc.d/named forcestart, etc.)

 To start a service which isn't enabled in rc.conf, it's better to use

 onestart

 From the rc.subr(8) manpage:

 force  Skip the checks for rcvar being set to ``YES'', and
sets rc_force=YES.  This ignores argument_precmd
returning non-zero, and ignores any of the required_*
tests failing, and always returns a zero exit status.

 oneSkip the checks for rcvar being set to ``YES'', but
performs all the other prerequisite tests.

Good to know, thx.

DS
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