Re: BSD folks position on GPL, Novell, IBM, SCO, and MS...

2006-11-25 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze


Mike Hauber wrote:
 i am by no means trolling here.  I just haven't heard much of anything from 
 the BSD community on the subjects, and would like to know the general 
 consensus.  Being that this is more of a support mailing list, if one could 
 direct me to where I can ask this question appropriately, or if folks would 
 reply only to my email addy, that would be fine, too.  Impositions here are 
 not my intent.
 
 I have been an avid user of the BSDs (mostly FreeBSD and OpenBSD), and have 
 experimented with the Linuses for a good while now (Mainly Debian, RH, and 
 SuSe).  I pretty much get it that the BSD folks and the Linux folks don't see 
 eye-to-eye on licensing issues, but it seems to me that the overall attempt 
 of both communities seems to be get the code out there and keep it free.

This is where you are wrong. The BSD approach is get free code out there, 
while the GPL approach is get open code out there and keep it open (open != 
free). You can argue about the meanings of the words free and open, but those 
are the two approaches.

I think the FreeBSD approach (this is the way I see it) is to use whatever is 
free to be used. Licensing issue only bother us, where they threaten the BSD 
license (i.e. GPL Kernel modules where the headers are also GPL code, would 
enforce the GPL upon the whole Kernel).
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Re: BSD folks position on GPL, Novell, IBM, SCO, and MS...

2006-11-24 Thread P.U.Kruppa

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Mike Hauber wrote:


i am by no means trolling here.  I just haven't heard much of anything from
the BSD community on the subjects, and would like to know the general
consensus.  Being that this is more of a support mailing list, if one could
direct me to where I can ask this question appropriately, or if folks would
reply only to my email addy, that would be fine, too.  Impositions here are
not my intent.

I have been an avid user of the BSDs (mostly FreeBSD and OpenBSD), and have
experimented with the Linuses for a good while now (Mainly Debian, RH, and
SuSe).  I pretty much get it that the BSD folks and the Linux folks don't see
eye-to-eye on licensing issues, but it seems to me that the overall attempt
of both communities seems to be get the code out there and keep it free.

I was just wondering what the general consensus was on the GPL, Linux in
general, SCOs lawsuit, Sun's open sourcing, IBMs contributions to Linux,
Novell's contributions, Novell's deal with MS and how this really affects
SuSe (there's a lot of hype on that and I literally don't know what to
believe at this point).

Being that most folks here would be in positions of having to deal with a
variety of OSs and have in the past dealt with opposing forces at work, I
figured there would be at least one or two educated folks I could gleen from.

Thanks, and sorry for the imposition,

Mike


PS...  One more question...  Being that Linux emulation is available as a port
for the BSDs, I would assume (but haven't taken the time to research) that
GPLd code is used.  If there comes to be issues with Linux, what would that
mean for BSDs compatibility in regards to emulation?


I think there's a list called freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org for 
non-technical discussions.



Regards,

Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Wuppertal
Germany

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