Re: Backup Size

2009-08-11 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24:19PM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some overhead to store information about the files it contains. Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-11 Thread Jay Hall
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: Just execute the tar command, and dump the output to /dev/null through dd: tar -cf - /etc |dd of=/dev/null tar: Removing leading '/' from member names 3160+0 records in 3160+0 records out 1617920 bytes transferred in 0.057690 secs (28045115

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21:58AM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. tar -cvf - /etc | dd of=/dev/nsa1 obs=10240 Why are you using dd? Tar was originally built to

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 10), Jay Hall said: I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. tar -cvf - /etc | dd of=/dev/nsa1 obs=10240 When the command completes, I receive the following message.

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:25:28PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21:58AM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. tar -cvf - /etc | dd

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:21:58 -0500, Jay Hall jh...@socket.net wrote: What concerns me is when running du -h /etc, the size of the folder is reported as 1.7M. Excuse me for being pedantic, but please try to use the correct terminology. There are no folders in FreeBSD. The concept you are

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Jay Hall
On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some overhead to store information about the files it contains. Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead tar will use? Thanks, Jay

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Mel Flynn
On Monday 10 August 2009 18:24:19 Jay Hall wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some overhead to store information about the files it contains. Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead tar will use?

Re: Backup Size

2009-08-10 Thread Jay Hall
Difficult. 512 bytes per entry + 1024 (EOF). See man 5 tar. But since files will be padded there is some extra overhead. Also, it is hard to calculate hard links and sparse files. Tar will handle these correctly (i.e. preserve hard links and detect sparse files and try not archive blocks