Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-05 Thread Anish Mistry
On Monday 03 April 2006 15:27, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
 borderless printing working, alas.

 The key points I learned:

 (1) Install print/cups.
 (2) Install graphics/hpijs.   This filters .ps - goo the printer
 groks (3) Install graphics/gimp.  This makes .ps files
 (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
 (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
 (6) Remove lp* binaries
 (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
 NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
 (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
 (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
 (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
 (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
  line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
  raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
  postscript filter for the printer.
 (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
  interface.

 #10 is was tripped me up for a long time.  That's why printing to
 the black and white printer worked for me (it was a postscript
 printer), while it failed to the color.  I hadn't noticed before
 that it printed the raw postscript and then lots of new lines. 
 Since these newlines weren't accompanied by CR, all text was off
 the edge of the papper, all I got was a bunch of blank pages.

 #5 bit me on boot.  Since cups replaces the /etc/printcap
 unconditionally, when lpd started it failed to start.  I lost a
 bunch of print jobs before I worked out where they had gone and why
 things had gone south.

 I'd love to know how to print borderless prints (right now I get
 1/4 (8mm) boarder on the prints).  I'd also love to know how to
 setup gimp correctly.  However, these are really side issues now
 that I have basic functionality working.

 Thanks to everybody who was helpful in getting me to this point. 
 It got me over the hump.  My HP DeskJet 5850 is working great as a
 color printer with CUPS and my LaserJet 2200 continues to work like
 before.

 Now, all I gotta do is to figure out my OfficeJet 4200, at least
 the scanning portion...  But that can wait until my photo printing
 backlog is cleared...
I'm working on the scanning bit.  I've got a preliminary version of 
hplip ported.
http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.tgz
I'm working on getting some feedback from the hplip folks about why, 
GetInEP is returning a bogus endpoint in the Device::Read method.  
The side-effect of this is not being able to read from the device 
(eg. scanning, and status information).  Device::Write works, so I'm 
able to at least print to my Officejet 5510v.  The key right now for 
hplip, you have to run the printer as a ugen device not ulpt.
Currently in the port Device::Read is overly complicated because it 
needs to handle it's own buffering since ugen doesn't buffer bulk 
endpoints.

If you'd like to try to get it setup, you need to:
1) make sure your printer is attaching as a ugen device.
2) install the port using the linked skeleton above
3) Add the following to you rc.conf:
hpiod_enable=YES
hpssd_enable=YES
Note:  right now those daemons run as root, I'm going to change that 
once everything is working, but for right now that was easiest.
4) Stop cups
5) You MUST start the services in the following order
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hpiod start  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hpssd start 
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd start
5) Run hp-setup and follow the prompts.
6) You should have been able to print out the test page in step 5.  If 
not, send the relevant parts of your syslog output.

-- 
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AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/


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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-05 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:12:01 +0200 (CEST)
P.U.Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try something like
   # /usr/local/bin/lpr your_image.jpg
 If that works we will have to set some links and everything will 
 be fine.

ah yes :) (the thread was, partly, about issues with cups printing not
showing up in GIMP).

the cups-lpr port will do the switching of system's lpr for cups' lpr.

cups-lpr-1.1.23.0_1 The CUPS BSD and system V compatibility binaries
(lp* comma
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-05 Thread Greg Barniskis

M. Warner Losh wrote:

OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
borderless printing working, alas.

The key points I learned:

(1) Install print/cups.
(2) Install graphics/hpijs. This filters .ps - goo the printer groks
(3) Install graphics/gimp.  This makes .ps files
(4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
(5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
(6) Remove lp* binaries
(7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
(8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
(8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
(9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
(10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
 line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
 raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
 postscript filter for the printer.
(11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
 interface.

[snip]

Thanks very much for posting back a solution summary. I tried to
monitor this thread but it got to be more verbose than I could
digest. This is most helpful.


I'd love to know how to print borderless prints (right now I get 1/4
(8mm) boarder on the prints).  


Perhaps I'm not reading you right, but if you mean you want to print
your images all the way to the physical edge of the paper, I think
you are out of luck.

As I understand it, most consumer model printers simply do not
(physically cannot) support that. In PDF terminology, you've got the
MediaBox (paper size) is one thing and the Bleedbox (printable area)
is another, smaller thing. Then there's the Trimbox, an even smaller
area where printing is thought to be reliably accurate.

Of course, if you can print borderless on your particular printer
via Windows, then you should have a reasonable expectation of being
able to do that in FreeBSD as well. However, if you regressed your
setup I think you'd find that the hardware is the limiting factor.


--
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South Central Library System (SCLS)
Library Interchange Network (LINK)
gregb at scls.lib.wi.us, (608) 266-6348

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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-05 Thread Bob Johnson
The HP 5850 is capable of borderless photo prints.

- Bob


On 4/3/06, Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 M. Warner Losh wrote:
  OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
  borderless printing working, alas.
 
  The key points I learned:
 
  (1) Install print/cups.
  (2) Install graphics/hpijs. This filters .ps - goo the printer groks
  (3) Install graphics/gimp.  This makes .ps files
  (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
  (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
  (6) Remove lp* binaries
  (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
  NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
  (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
  (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
  (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
  (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
   line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
   raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
   postscript filter for the printer.
  (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
   interface.
 [snip]

 Thanks very much for posting back a solution summary. I tried to
 monitor this thread but it got to be more verbose than I could
 digest. This is most helpful.

  I'd love to know how to print borderless prints (right now I get 1/4
  (8mm) boarder on the prints).

 Perhaps I'm not reading you right, but if you mean you want to print
 your images all the way to the physical edge of the paper, I think
 you are out of luck.

 As I understand it, most consumer model printers simply do not
 (physically cannot) support that. In PDF terminology, you've got the
 MediaBox (paper size) is one thing and the Bleedbox (printable area)
 is another, smaller thing. Then there's the Trimbox, an even smaller
 area where printing is thought to be reliably accurate.

 Of course, if you can print borderless on your particular printer
 via Windows, then you should have a reasonable expectation of being
 able to do that in FreeBSD as well. However, if you regressed your
 setup I think you'd find that the hardware is the limiting factor.


 --
 Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator
 South Central Library System (SCLS)
 Library Interchange Network (LINK)
 gregb at scls.lib.wi.us, (608) 266-6348


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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-05 Thread Warner Losh
 Of course, if you can print borderless on your particular printer
 via Windows, then you should have a reasonable expectation of being
 able to do that in FreeBSD as well. However, if you regressed your
 setup I think you'd find that the hardware is the limiting factor.

What you said about printing all the way to the edge of the paper is
generally true of consumer grade printers, especially laser printers.
This printer, however, is definitely able to produce borderless prints
with Windows.

Warner

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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-04 Thread Vayu
On Monday 03 April 2006 22:17, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : On Monday 03 April 2006 12:27, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 :  OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
 :  borderless printing working, alas.
 :  
 :  The key points I learned:
 :  
 :  (1) Install print/cups.
 :  (2) Install graphics/hpijs.   This filters .ps - goo the printer 
 groks
 :  (3) Install graphics/gimp.This makes .ps files
 :  (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
 :  (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
 :  (6) Remove lp* binaries
 :  (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
 :  NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
 :  (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
 :  (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
 :  (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
 :  (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
 :   line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
 :   raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
 :   postscript filter for the printer.
 :  (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
 :   interface.
 :  
 : 
 : For someone who has just been struggling with CUPS this is helpful.
 : Would you mind elaborating the steps on how to accomplish 5, 6 and 7 
above?
 : I've got most everything working, now I'd like to switch to the CUPs lp 
 : commands.
 
 Sure.
 
 Step 5 is accomplished by not having a line like lpd_enable=yes in
 /etc/rc.conf.  I had one from when I was using lpd.
 
 Step 6 is just 'sudo rm -f /usr/bin/lp?*'.  /usr/bin/lp is mildly
 useful, and will be recreated.  

What do you mean will be recreated?   (If it's going to be recreated, then why 
delete it?)


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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-04 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:10:16 -0700
Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  Step 6 is just 'sudo rm -f /usr/bin/lp?*'.  /usr/bin/lp is mildly
  useful, and will be recreated.  
 
 What do you mean will be recreated?   (If it's going to be recreated,
 then why delete it?)

why not install print/cups-lpr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Tue Apr  4 16:16:14 2006]
/usr/home/betom
$ less /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/pkg-message
**
**
PLEASE NOTE:


This port will move lpr binaries located in /usr/bin and
/usr/sbin to unshade cups-lpr binaries in PATH variable

**
**

AND add the options to make.conf so when you rebuild world, you won't
over-ride the cups files.
Beto
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Monday 03 April 2006 22:17, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:  : On Monday 03 April 2006 12:27, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  :  OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
:  :  borderless printing working, alas.
:  :  
:  :  The key points I learned:
:  :  
:  :  (1) Install print/cups.
:  :  (2) Install graphics/hpijs. This filters .ps - goo the printer 
groks
:  :  (3) Install graphics/gimp.  This makes .ps files
:  :  (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
:  :  (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
:  :  (6) Remove lp* binaries
:  :  (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
:  :  NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
:  :  (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
:  :  (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
:  :  (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
:  :  (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
:  :   line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
:  :   raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
:  :   postscript filter for the printer.
:  :  (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
:  :   interface.
:  :  
:  : 
:  : For someone who has just been struggling with CUPS this is helpful.
:  : Would you mind elaborating the steps on how to accomplish 5, 6 and 7 
: above?
:  : I've got most everything working, now I'd like to switch to the CUPs lp 
:  : commands.
:  
:  Sure.
:  
:  Step 5 is accomplished by not having a line like lpd_enable=yes in
:  /etc/rc.conf.  I had one from when I was using lpd.
:  
:  Step 6 is just 'sudo rm -f /usr/bin/lp?*'.  /usr/bin/lp is mildly
:  useful, and will be recreated.  
: 
: What do you mean will be recreated?   (If it's going to be recreated, then 
why 
: delete it?)

installworld will recreate it.

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:10:16 -0700
: Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: 
:   
:   Step 6 is just 'sudo rm -f /usr/bin/lp?*'.  /usr/bin/lp is mildly
:   useful, and will be recreated.  
:  
:  What do you mean will be recreated?   (If it's going to be recreated,
:  then why delete it?)
: 
: why not install print/cups-lpr 
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Tue Apr  4 16:16:14 2006]
: /usr/home/betom
: $ less /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/pkg-message
: **
: **
: PLEASE NOTE:
: 
: 
: This port will move lpr binaries located in /usr/bin and
: /usr/sbin to unshade cups-lpr binaries in PATH variable
: 
: **
: **
: 
: AND add the options to make.conf so when you rebuild world, you won't
: over-ride the cups files.

That's what I recall seeing.  Thanks for the tip.

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
borderless printing working, alas.

The key points I learned:

(1) Install print/cups.
(2) Install graphics/hpijs. This filters .ps - goo the printer groks
(3) Install graphics/gimp.  This makes .ps files
(4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
(5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
(6) Remove lp* binaries
(7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
(8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
(8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
(9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
(10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
 line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
 raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
 postscript filter for the printer.
(11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
 interface.

#10 is was tripped me up for a long time.  That's why printing to the
black and white printer worked for me (it was a postscript printer),
while it failed to the color.  I hadn't noticed before that it printed
the raw postscript and then lots of new lines.  Since these newlines
weren't accompanied by CR, all text was off the edge of the papper,
all I got was a bunch of blank pages.

#5 bit me on boot.  Since cups replaces the /etc/printcap
unconditionally, when lpd started it failed to start.  I lost a bunch
of print jobs before I worked out where they had gone and why things
had gone south.

I'd love to know how to print borderless prints (right now I get 1/4
(8mm) boarder on the prints).  I'd also love to know how to setup gimp
correctly.  However, these are really side issues now that I have
basic functionality working.

Thanks to everybody who was helpful in getting me to this point.  It
got me over the hump.  My HP DeskJet 5850 is working great as a color
printer with CUPS and my LaserJet 2200 continues to work like before.

Now, all I gotta do is to figure out my OfficeJet 4200, at least the
scanning portion...  But that can wait until my photo printing backlog
is cleared...

Thanks again,

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-03 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Monday 03 April 2006 14:27, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
 borderless printing working, alas.

 The key points I learned:

 (1) Install print/cups.
 (2) Install graphics/hpijs.   This filters .ps - goo the printer groks
 (3) Install graphics/gimp.This makes .ps files
 (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
 (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
 (6) Remove lp* binaries
 (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
 NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
 (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
 (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
 (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
 (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
  line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
  raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
  postscript filter for the printer.
 (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
  interface.

 #10 is was tripped me up for a long time.  That's why printing to the
 black and white printer worked for me (it was a postscript printer),
 while it failed to the color.  I hadn't noticed before that it
 printed the raw postscript and then lots of new lines.  Since these
 newlines weren't accompanied by CR, all text was off the edge of
 the papper, all I got was a bunch of blank pages.

 #5 bit me on boot.  Since cups replaces the /etc/printcap
 unconditionally, when lpd started it failed to start.  I lost a bunch
 of print jobs before I worked out where they had gone and why things
 had gone south.

 I'd love to know how to print borderless prints (right now I get 1/4
 (8mm) boarder on the prints).  I'd also love to know how to setup
 gimp correctly.  However, these are really side issues now that I
 have basic functionality working.

 Thanks to everybody who was helpful in getting me to this point.  It
 got me over the hump.  My HP DeskJet 5850 is working great as a color
 printer with CUPS and my LaserJet 2200 continues to work like before.

 Now, all I gotta do is to figure out my OfficeJet 4200, at least the
 scanning portion...  But that can wait until my photo printing
 backlog is cleared...

 Thanks again,

 Warner

Hi Warner,

You have to have a printer that's capable of doing borderless prints. 
Most printers will only print to within 1/4 of the page. Try a custom 
size paper (increase the size by 1/2), maybe that will help do it.

Don
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
 You have to have a printer that's capable of doing borderless prints. 
 Most printers will only print to within 1/4 of the page. Try a custom 
 size paper (increase the size by 1/2), maybe that will help do it.

Windows does borderless printing on this printer, so I know it can do it.

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-03 Thread Vayu
On Monday 03 April 2006 12:27, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
 borderless printing working, alas.
 
 The key points I learned:
 
 (1) Install print/cups.
 (2) Install graphics/hpijs.   This filters .ps - goo the printer groks
 (3) Install graphics/gimp.This makes .ps files
 (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
 (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
 (6) Remove lp* binaries
 (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
 NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
 (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
 (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
 (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
 (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
  line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
  raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
  postscript filter for the printer.
 (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
  interface.
 

For someone who has just been struggling with CUPS this is helpful.
Would you mind elaborating the steps on how to accomplish 5, 6 and 7 above?
I've got most everything working, now I'd like to switch to the CUPs lp 
commands.
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-04-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Monday 03 April 2006 12:27, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  OK.  I got bordered photo printing working.  I haven't gotten
:  borderless printing working, alas.
:  
:  The key points I learned:
:  
:  (1) Install print/cups.
:  (2) Install graphics/hpijs. This filters .ps - goo the printer groks
:  (3) Install graphics/gimp.  This makes .ps files
:  (4) Kill lpr/lpd before starting cups.
:  (5) Make sure you configure lpr/lpd not to startup on boot
:  (6) Remove lp* binaries
:  (7) Setup buildworld /etc/make.conf so it doesn't build lpr with
:  NO_LPR or WITHOUT_LPR
:  (8) Add printer via localhost:631 web interface.
:  (8) Set printer to draft mode via cups for testing
:  (9) Use firefox to generate test prints.
:  (10) To print from gimp, I have to remove the '-l' from the command
:   line every time I print in the printer setup.  This causes the
:   raw .ps file to go to the printer, rather than via cups'
:   postscript filter for the printer.
:  (11) To get photos, one must set photo quality via cups setup
:   interface.
:  
: 
: For someone who has just been struggling with CUPS this is helpful.
: Would you mind elaborating the steps on how to accomplish 5, 6 and 7 above?
: I've got most everything working, now I'd like to switch to the CUPs lp 
: commands.

Sure.

Step 5 is accomplished by not having a line like lpd_enable=yes in
/etc/rc.conf.  I had one from when I was using lpd.

Step 6 is just 'sudo rm -f /usr/bin/lp?*'.  /usr/bin/lp is mildly
useful, and will be recreated.  There's also a knob to the cups port
which lets you override the system default programs, but I'm unsure
what it is.  A quick grep shows me nothing (likely grepping in the
wrong dir).

Step 7 is just adding the lines:
NO_LPR=yes  6.x and older
WITHOUT_LPR=yes 7.x and newer
to /etc/make.conf.  In 7.x and newer you can add it to /etc/src.conf
as well.

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Friday 31 March 2006 00:08, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 Let us suppose that I have a HP DeskJet 5850 that I can talk to via
 CUPS.  I can print test pages w/o any problem.

 What are my options to print photos and what kind of quality can I
 expect relative to Windows?

 Warner
 ___

Hi Warner,

The reviews of the 5850 say it prints pretty good pictures. So, the 
printer is capable. The problem is the cups driver your using may not 
be so capable, and you need to locate one that is capable of photo 
quality printing.

A long (couple of years or so) I had an HP 2000c. The driver for windows 
would print very good color pictures. Since this was a networked 
printer and I had a FreeBSD computer connected to the LAN, I wanted to 
be able to use it through FreeBSD. The cups driver did a very good job 
with text and graphics that didn't need to be photo quality. On photos, 
it just plain sucked. I think I was able to use the HP2000c PPD from 
the Windows install - I can't say positively that's where I got it 
from. I had to have the 2000c installed in cups twice, once as HP2000, 
with the cups PPD; and once as PHOTO, with the photo capable PPD. You 
don't want to use the photo PPD for plain text. With that setup it was 
capable of print quality every bit as good as Windows.

So, you should be able to print photos with the same quality as Windows, 
if you locate a PPD that will do it.

Don
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let us suppose that I have a HP DeskJet 5850 that I can talk to via
 CUPS.  I can print test pages w/o any problem.

 What are my options to print photos and what kind of quality can I
 expect relative to Windows?


According to 
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_5850,
HP's HPIJS driver gives excellent photo quality with HP printers. 
One reviewer says that the quality at high resolution isn't quite as
good as Windows, but it isn't clear whether that means high-resolution
normal mode, or photo mode, or both.

ports/print/foomatic-db-hpijs and  /ports/print/hpijs

- Bob
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Friday 31 March 2006 00:08, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  Let us suppose that I have a HP DeskJet 5850 that I can talk to via
:  CUPS.  I can print test pages w/o any problem.
: 
:  What are my options to print photos and what kind of quality can I
:  expect relative to Windows?
: 
:  Warner
:  ___
: 
: Hi Warner,

Donnald,

: The reviews of the 5850 say it prints pretty good pictures. So, the 
: printer is capable. The problem is the cups driver your using may not 
: be so capable, and you need to locate one that is capable of photo 
: quality printing.

It prints absoultely fabulous picture, under windows.

: A long (couple of years or so) I had an HP 2000c. The driver for windows 
: would print very good color pictures. Since this was a networked 
: printer and I had a FreeBSD computer connected to the LAN, I wanted to 
: be able to use it through FreeBSD. The cups driver did a very good job 
: with text and graphics that didn't need to be photo quality. On photos, 
: it just plain sucked. I think I was able to use the HP2000c PPD from 
: the Windows install - I can't say positively that's where I got it 
: from. I had to have the 2000c installed in cups twice, once as HP2000, 
: with the cups PPD; and once as PHOTO, with the photo capable PPD. You 
: don't want to use the photo PPD for plain text. With that setup it was 
: capable of print quality every bit as good as Windows.
: 
: So, you should be able to print photos with the same quality as Windows, 
: if you locate a PPD that will do it.

Let's assume for the moment that my PPD is good.  I guess I'm looking
for something more basic: how do I take the .jpg from my camera and
get a photo on my printer.  What's the conversion process?

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:  Let us suppose that I have a HP DeskJet 5850 that I can talk to via
:  CUPS.  I can print test pages w/o any problem.
: 
:  What are my options to print photos and what kind of quality can I
:  expect relative to Windows?
: 
: 
: According to 
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_5850,
: HP's HPIJS driver gives excellent photo quality with HP printers. 
: One reviewer says that the quality at high resolution isn't quite as
: good as Windows, but it isn't clear whether that means high-resolution
: normal mode, or photo mode, or both.
: 
: ports/print/foomatic-db-hpijs and  /ports/print/hpijs

Bob,

Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am tripping
over something stupidly basic: what converts the pict0001.jpg into
something that can be fed to the hpijs driver that will print?

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Friday 31 March 2006 10:34, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 Let's assume for the moment that my PPD is good.  I guess I'm looking
 for something more basic: how do I take the .jpg from my camera and
 get a photo on my printer.  What's the conversion process?

 Warner

Your going to have to look at gphoto2 and libgphoto2, and digikam. I 
don't have a camera anymore so I can't check it to make sure of the 
exact procedure. I would also expect to be doing it as root until you 
get the permissions set right.

The camera I used connected to a serial port. There are more options 
available now with newer cameras.

Don
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Friday 31 March 2006 10:37, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 Bob,

 Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am tripping
 over something stupidly basic: what converts the pict0001.jpg into
 something that can be fed to the hpijs driver that will print?

 Warner
 ___
Gimp will do image manipulation as well as print, openoffice, several in 
kde - kuickshow for one, several in gnome. I just printed a jpg using 
kuickshow, so I know it will do it. Pretty much, once you've got the 
jpg off the camera, what you do with it depends on your preferences.

Don
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Micah

M. Warner Losh wrote:

In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:  Let us suppose that I have a HP DeskJet 5850 that I can talk to via
:  CUPS.  I can print test pages w/o any problem.
: 
:  What are my options to print photos and what kind of quality can I
:  expect relative to Windows?
: 
: 
: According to http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_5850,
: HP's HPIJS driver gives excellent photo quality with HP printers. 
: One reviewer says that the quality at high resolution isn't quite as

: good as Windows, but it isn't clear whether that means high-resolution
: normal mode, or photo mode, or both.
: 
: ports/print/foomatic-db-hpijs and  /ports/print/hpijs


Bob,

Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am tripping
over something stupidly basic: what converts the pict0001.jpg into
something that can be fed to the hpijs driver that will print?

Warner


I use the gimp for that (graphics/gimp).  The kde programs Krita, Kview, 
and KolourPaintAlso, as well as the gtk program gqview, can all print 
too.  I can't vouch for their usefulness since I've never used them for 
printing.


You might also try browsing http://www.freebsd.org/ports/graphics.html 
to see if there's something there that sounds better.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Friday 31 March 2006 10:37, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  Bob,
: 
:  Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am tripping
:  over something stupidly basic: what converts the pict0001.jpg into
:  something that can be fed to the hpijs driver that will print?
: 
:  Warner
:  ___
: Gimp will do image manipulation as well as print, openoffice, several in 
: kde - kuickshow for one, several in gnome. I just printed a jpg using 
: kuickshow, so I know it will do it. Pretty much, once you've got the 
: jpg off the camera, what you do with it depends on your preferences.

gimp doesn't have my printer listed, and printing .ps to it fails.  Is
there some file I need to put somewhere?

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Friday 31 March 2006 11:56, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : On Friday 31 March 2006 10:37, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 :  Bob,
 : 
 :  Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am
 :  tripping over something stupidly basic: what converts the
 :  pict0001.jpg into something that can be fed to the hpijs driver
 :  that will print?
 : 
 :  Warner
 :  ___
 :
 : Gimp will do image manipulation as well as print, openoffice,
 : several in kde - kuickshow for one, several in gnome. I just
 : printed a jpg using kuickshow, so I know it will do it. Pretty
 : much, once you've got the jpg off the camera, what you do with it
 : depends on your preferences.

 gimp doesn't have my printer listed, and printing .ps to it fails. 
 Is there some file I need to put somewhere?

 Warner

Are you using cups? Or something else? If you have your printer working 
under cups, then I would think that gimp would print to it. I remember 
when I was using an HP2000c, it wasn't listed under gimp either, but I 
was able to install it there because I was able to use it with cups. 
Failing that, there are other programs you can use to print the 
adjusted jpg file, kuickshow is one, openoffice2.0.2 has several, kde 
has several besides kuickshow, gnome2 has several.

Warner, I know you are expert on FreeBSD, and know you know your way 
around a computer at least as well as I do, if not better, I have 
several emails from you concerning ACPI, and you show up in various 
other lists that I belong to, so I know who you are. My question to you 
is: do you have some hidden reason for showing up on questions and 
acting like a newbie, or are you sincerely looking for help here. With 
the hand holding your asking for, I'm beginning to wonder. If you do 
in-fact, need the help, then you should know that without providing 
information, that you haven't been volunteering, we aren't going to get 
anywhere fast. 

Don
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Friday 31 March 2006 11:56, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 
:  Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:  : On Friday 31 March 2006 10:37, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  :  Bob,
:  : 
:  :  Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am
:  :  tripping over something stupidly basic: what converts the
:  :  pict0001.jpg into something that can be fed to the hpijs driver
:  :  that will print?
:  : 
:  :  Warner
:  :  ___
:  :
:  : Gimp will do image manipulation as well as print, openoffice,
:  : several in kde - kuickshow for one, several in gnome. I just
:  : printed a jpg using kuickshow, so I know it will do it. Pretty
:  : much, once you've got the jpg off the camera, what you do with it
:  : depends on your preferences.
: 
:  gimp doesn't have my printer listed, and printing .ps to it fails. 
:  Is there some file I need to put somewhere?
: 
:  Warner
: 
: Are you using cups? Or something else? If you have your printer working 
: under cups, then I would think that gimp would print to it.

I have cups running.  I'd have thought that too, so I'm doing
something insanely stupid.  I can print to my other HP printer, but it
understands .ps natively.  If the answer to printing from gimp is
'just print a .ps' then I'm happy.

: I remember 
: when I was using an HP2000c, it wasn't listed under gimp either, but I 
: was able to install it there because I was able to use it with cups. 
: Failing that, there are other programs you can use to print the 
: adjusted jpg file, kuickshow is one, openoffice2.0.2 has several, kde 
: has several besides kuickshow, gnome2 has several.

I can print test pages with the CUPS interface w/o a problem.  I'll
try directly printing a simple color PS document next.  I just
realized that I haven't tried to do that yet.

: Warner, I know you are expert on FreeBSD, and know you know your way 
: around a computer at least as well as I do, if not better, I have 
: several emails from you concerning ACPI, and you show up in various 
: other lists that I belong to, so I know who you are. My question to you 
: is: do you have some hidden reason for showing up on questions and 
: acting like a newbie, or are you sincerely looking for help here. With 
: the hand holding your asking for, I'm beginning to wonder. If you do 
: in-fact, need the help, then you should know that without providing 
: information, that you haven't been volunteering, we aren't going to get 
: anywhere fast. 

The reason is that I've been trying to get printing working for
something like ages.  I've fought cups, hpijs, etc many times in the
past.  I picked bad times, in retrospect, to try to use these tools
since they were broken in some subtle way at the time.  I'm frustrated
and need a little hand-holding.  I think I might have earned a little
bit of it from the years of kernel related help I've given out :-).
I've not focused on printing on FreeBSD much at all since until the
latest color printer I got, good old lpr/lpd has been enough.

I'm not sure what information to provide.  I do understand its need.
I'm somewhat new to the image processing side of printing, so am
acting like a totale newbie because in some ways I am :-).

I'm doing multiple printer/scanner projects at the same time.  I have
a network connected HP LaserJet 2200 that's working great under both
lpr and cups.  I have a network connected HP DeskJet 5850 that's not
working at all under lpr/FreeBSD, but I can at least print test pages
on under CUPS.  It works great from Windows.  I also have a usb
connected HP OfficeJet 4200 scanner/printer/fax that I'm trying to get
scanning working on, but that's on a completely different
machine/different story :-).

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :  Let us suppose that I have a HP DeskJet 5850 that I can talk to via
 :  CUPS.  I can print test pages w/o any problem.
 : 
 :  What are my options to print photos and what kind of quality can I
 :  expect relative to Windows?
 : 
 :
 : According to
 http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_5850,
 : HP's HPIJS driver gives excellent photo quality with HP printers.
 : One reviewer says that the quality at high resolution isn't quite as
 : good as Windows, but it isn't clear whether that means high-resolution
 : normal mode, or photo mode, or both.
 :
 : ports/print/foomatic-db-hpijs and  /ports/print/hpijs

 Bob,

 Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am tripping
 over something stupidly basic: what converts the pict0001.jpg into
 something that can be fed to the hpijs driver that will print?

 Warner


In principle, an application feeds it to CUPS, CUPS feeds it to
GhostScript, and GhostScript uses the HPIJS driver to print it. Or
something like that.  In practice, I use APSFILTER instead of CUPS,
and I haven't ever tried to do photo printing from FreeBSD, although
getting my wife's HP photo printer working with FreeBSD is on my list
of things to do this weekend, or next weekend, or maybe the weekend
after that.

The process works for printing JPEGs from web pages on my laser
printer (although not with HPIJS), and since the HPIJS driver is
supposed to autodetect photo paper in your printer, I would expect it
to just work for photos if you can print a web page with it.

As for a specific application, The Gimp knows something about printing
photos, but again, I haven't actually done it.   Digikam also looks
very promising as a photo manipulation tool.  Anything that can
display it and knows how to print ought to do it (kview for example?).
I'm sure someone with actual experience can provide a more complete
answer.;-)

So far, I've printed from the Gimp by writing the file to a USB
thumbdrive, and plugging that into the photo printer.  The Gimp will
let you define the picture dimensions in inches, which may be
necessary to get the printing results you want.  Otherwise you may end
up with a picture that is 1 x 1.5 inches, or one point by one point,
or a piece of an 8x10 printed on 4x6 paper, or any of several other
possible defaults I've managed to print in the past.  Some printers
also do bad things if the image has too many pixels (or maybe bytes),
so I've sometimes needed to reduce the image resolution before
printing.

- Bob
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Friday 31 March 2006 14:16, Bob Johnson wrote:

 In principle, an application feeds it to CUPS, CUPS feeds it to
 GhostScript, and GhostScript uses the HPIJS driver to print it. Or
 something like that.  In practice, I use APSFILTER instead of CUPS,
 and I haven't ever tried to do photo printing from FreeBSD, although
 getting my wife's HP photo printer working with FreeBSD is on my list
 of things to do this weekend, or next weekend, or maybe the weekend
 after that.

 The process works for printing JPEGs from web pages on my laser
 printer (although not with HPIJS), and since the HPIJS driver is
 supposed to autodetect photo paper in your printer, I would expect it
 to just work for photos if you can print a web page with it.


 As for a specific application, The Gimp knows something about
 printing photos, but again, I haven't actually done it.   Digikam
 also looks very promising as a photo manipulation tool.  Anything
 that can display it and knows how to print ought to do it (kview for
 example?). I'm sure someone with actual experience can provide a more
 complete answer.;-)

 So far, I've printed from the Gimp by writing the file to a USB
 thumbdrive, and plugging that into the photo printer.  The Gimp will
 let you define the picture dimensions in inches, which may be
 necessary to get the printing results you want.  Otherwise you may
 end up with a picture that is 1 x 1.5 inches, or one point by one
 point, or a piece of an 8x10 printed on 4x6 paper, or any of several
 other possible defaults I've managed to print in the past.  Some
 printers also do bad things if the image has too many pixels (or
 maybe bytes), so I've sometimes needed to reduce the image resolution
 before printing.

 - Bob
 ___

Unless the printer was capable of determining what sort of paper it was 
loaded with, I just don't see how the HPIJS driver would autodetect 
photopaper. 

Don
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/31/06, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 31 March 2006 14:16, Bob Johnson wrote:
 
  [...]
  The process works for printing JPEGs from web pages on my laser
  printer (although not with HPIJS), and since the HPIJS driver is
  supposed to autodetect photo paper in your printer, I would expect it
  to just work for photos if you can print a web page with it.

  ___

 Unless the printer was capable of determining what sort of paper it was
 loaded with, I just don't see how the HPIJS driver would autodetect
 photopaper.

 Don

The documentation says that's exactly what happens.  The printer
detects it, and tells the driver.  On our HP printer, you switch a
lever to get it to print from the photo paper tray instead of the main
tray.  That may be what it detects, or maybe it's even smarter than
that.

- Bob
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Friday 31 March 2006 14:16, Bob Johnson wrote:
: 
:  In principle, an application feeds it to CUPS, CUPS feeds it to
:  GhostScript, and GhostScript uses the HPIJS driver to print it. Or
:  something like that.  In practice, I use APSFILTER instead of CUPS,
:  and I haven't ever tried to do photo printing from FreeBSD, although
:  getting my wife's HP photo printer working with FreeBSD is on my list
:  of things to do this weekend, or next weekend, or maybe the weekend
:  after that.
: 
:  The process works for printing JPEGs from web pages on my laser
:  printer (although not with HPIJS), and since the HPIJS driver is
:  supposed to autodetect photo paper in your printer, I would expect it
:  to just work for photos if you can print a web page with it.
: 
: 
:  As for a specific application, The Gimp knows something about
:  printing photos, but again, I haven't actually done it.   Digikam
:  also looks very promising as a photo manipulation tool.  Anything
:  that can display it and knows how to print ought to do it (kview for
:  example?). I'm sure someone with actual experience can provide a more
:  complete answer.;-)
: 
:  So far, I've printed from the Gimp by writing the file to a USB
:  thumbdrive, and plugging that into the photo printer.  The Gimp will
:  let you define the picture dimensions in inches, which may be
:  necessary to get the printing results you want.  Otherwise you may
:  end up with a picture that is 1 x 1.5 inches, or one point by one
:  point, or a piece of an 8x10 printed on 4x6 paper, or any of several
:  other possible defaults I've managed to print in the past.  Some
:  printers also do bad things if the image has too many pixels (or
:  maybe bytes), so I've sometimes needed to reduce the image resolution
:  before printing.
: 
:  - Bob
:  ___
: 
: Unless the printer was capable of determining what sort of paper it was 
: loaded with, I just don't see how the HPIJS driver would autodetect 
: photopaper. 

It doesn't.  However, one of the CUPS settings is 'paper type' and
'paper size'.  There's also print quality.  I can set those manually
and CUPS claims that the settings changes have taken effect.

Warner
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : On Friday 31 March 2006 14:16, Bob Johnson wrote:
 : 
 :  The process works for printing JPEGs from web pages on my laser
 :  printer (although not with HPIJS), and since the HPIJS driver is
 :  supposed to autodetect photo paper in your printer, I would expect it
 :  to just work for photos if you can print a web page with it.
 : 
 : 

 :  ___
 :
 : Unless the printer was capable of determining what sort of paper it was
 : loaded with, I just don't see how the HPIJS driver would autodetect
 : photopaper.

 It doesn't.  However, one of the CUPS settings is 'paper type' and
 'paper size'.  There's also print quality.  I can set those manually
 and CUPS claims that the settings changes have taken effect.

 Warner


If HPIJS doesn't autodetect photo paper, you may not be able to print
decent photos.  It may be that HPIJS detects the change, but doesn't
tell CUPS about it.

You have me curious enough that I think getting our HP 4xxx (whatever
it is) working with FreeBSD will be a project for this weekend.  The
pinhole camera can wait another week, I guess.  If I learn anything
useful, I'll let you know.

- Bob
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread John Conover
Bob Johnson writes:
 On 3/31/06, M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  : On Friday 31 March 2006 14:16, Bob Johnson wrote:
  : 
  :  The process works for printing JPEGs from web pages on my laser
  :  printer (although not with HPIJS), and since the HPIJS driver is
  :  supposed to autodetect photo paper in your printer, I would expect it
  :  to just work for photos if you can print a web page with it.
  :
  : Unless the printer was capable of determining what sort of paper it was
  : loaded with, I just don't see how the HPIJS driver would autodetect
  : photopaper.
 
  It doesn't.  However, one of the CUPS settings is 'paper type' and
  'paper size'.  There's also print quality.  I can set those manually
  and CUPS claims that the settings changes have taken effect.
 
 
 If HPIJS doesn't autodetect photo paper, you may not be able to print
 decent photos.  It may be that HPIJS detects the change, but doesn't
 tell CUPS about it.
 
 You have me curious enough that I think getting our HP 4xxx (whatever
 it is) working with FreeBSD will be a project for this weekend.  The
 pinhole camera can wait another week, I guess.  If I learn anything
 useful, I'll let you know.


I don't know if its any help, but the Gimp has a menu for the kind of
paper put in the printer, and automatically changes gamma to
accommodate it, (at least on the Epson printers.) Of course, if you
aren't printing from Gimp, its not of much use.

John

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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:46:03 -0700 (MST)
M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 : Are you using cups? Or something else? If you have your printer
 working : under cups, then I would think that gimp would print to it.
 
 I have cups running.  I'd have thought that too, so I'm doing
 something insanely stupid.  I can print to my other HP printer, but it
 understands .ps natively.  If the answer to printing from gimp is
 'just print a .ps' then I'm happy.

Hi all,
I have gimp and cups running on my box. From gimp, all I need to do is
go to the option and select the (cups based) printer I want and off it 
goes. I actually did this yesterday with no problem. 
Photo quality printing and all that I havent been able to test/use yet, but I 
should in the near future. The comments about the
right driver and using any of the several options in Gimp's print
dialog would seem spot on

FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sat Apr  1 08:53:56 2006]
~
$ pkg_info | grep cup
cups-1.1.23.0_1 The Common UNIX Printing System: Metaport to
install comple cups-base-1.1.23.0_8 The Common UNIX Printing System:
headers, libs,  daemons cups-lpr-1.1.23.0_1 The CUPS BSD and system V
compatibility binaries (lp* comma cups-pdf-1.7.4  A virtual printer
for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15 Postscript
interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers cups-samba-5.0.r3
The Common UNIX Printing System:  MS Windows client drivers
libgnomecups-0.2.2_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration


$ pkg_info | grep gimp
gimp-2.2.10_1,1 A GNU Image Manipulation Program
gimp-print-4.2.7_2  GIMP Print Printer Driver


When installing Cups, I remember seeing some instructions relating to
being able to print from GIMP... ah
yes, /usr/ports/print/cups-base/pkg-message: 
[]
**
PLEASE NOTE: 

To enable printing under Gimp do the following:
1) Uncomment application/octet-stream line in mime.types
2) Uncomment application/octet-stream line in mime.convs
3) Restart cupsd
[]

I don't particularly remember doing this... 

if everything in your system matches this, let me know what other info you want 
and I'm happy to share it.

good luck,
Beto
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Re: Best way to print photos

2006-03-31 Thread P.U.Kruppa


I didn't catch the complete thread, but perhaps I can help a 
little bit.


On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, M. Warner Losh wrote:


:  :  Thanks for the tips.  I have these ports installed, but am
:  :  tripping over something stupidly basic: what converts the
:  :  pict0001.jpg into something that can be fed to the hpijs driver
:  :  that will print?
:  : 
:  :  Warner
: Are you using cups? Or something else? If you have your printer working
: under cups, then I would think that gimp would print to it.

I have cups running.  I'd have thought that too, so I'm doing
something insanely stupid.  I can print to my other HP printer, but it
understands .ps natively.  If the answer to printing from gimp is
'just print a .ps' then I'm happy.

Once you have setup cups correctly you can simply type
# lpr your_image.jpg
and it will be printed out.


I can print test pages with the CUPS interface w/o a problem.  I'll
try directly printing a simple color PS document next.  I just
realized that I haven't tried to do that yet.

There might be a very simple reason for your problems:
Cups' lpr program lives in /usr/local/bin/lpr and thus will be 
shadowed  by FreeBSD's native /usr/bin/lpr .

Try something like
# /usr/local/bin/lpr your_image.jpg
If that works we will have to set some links and everything will 
be fine.


Regards,

Uli.



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