Re: Booting without keyboard.
ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p10 on a Intel SE7501WV2 board. I am using a PS2 keyboard without mouse. It works fine. However, when i boot without the keyboard plugged into the system, it is not able to accept the keyboard when i plug in later. Is there a way to turn the keyboard always 'on' so that i can get it to work whenever i plug it in after the system is up and running. Hi, You could try a USB keyboard. I'm not sure if USB Hotplugging is working in FBSD or not, but it *should* work theoretically. I don't know of any systems that allow PS/2 hotplugging. BR, -- mike ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
On October 6, 2003 01:16 pm, Mike Jackson wrote: Hi, You could try a USB keyboard. I'm not sure if USB Hotplugging is working in FBSD or not, but it *should* work theoretically. I don't know of any systems that allow PS/2 hotplugging. BR, -- mike USB hotplugging definitely works as of 5.1-CURRENT; I've swapped my mouse and trackball into different ports a number of times, and they work right away. However, I don't know if this is the case as of 4.8. If you have (other) USB peripherals, it might be worth trying a hotplug to see if it works. -BB ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
On Monday 06 October 2003 08:16, Mike Jackson wrote: ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p10 on a Intel SE7501WV2 board. I am using a PS2 keyboard without mouse. It works fine. However, when i boot without the keyboard plugged into the system, it is not able to accept the keyboard when i plug in later. Is there a way to turn the keyboard always 'on' so that i can get it to work whenever i plug it in after the system is up and running. Yes, there is. In your kernel, find the line: device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 the default kernel has a flag x or something after the 'irq 1' . Delete the flag portion and its argument, recompile and reboot and then the ps2 keyboard will always load. Henrik -- Henrik Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] `If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.' --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 04:16:39PM +0300, Mike Jackson wrote: Hi, You could try a USB keyboard. I'm not sure if USB Hotplugging is working in FBSD or not, but it *should* work theoretically. I don't know of any systems that allow PS/2 hotplugging. I've read (although never actually seen myself - so take this with as large a grain of salt as you like) that hotplugging PS/2 peripherals can damage the port you're plugging them into, so I'd be wary about doing this. Depends where the server is located wrt. other machines, but a KVM switch might be useful in this situation. Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
Is there a way to turn the keyboard always 'on' so that i can get it to work whenever i plug it in after the system is up and running. In your kernel config, remove any flags for the keyboard device, i.e: device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 Now build a new kernel, reboot, and it should work as desired. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
I've read (although never actually seen myself - so take this with as large a grain of salt as you like) that hotplugging PS/2 peripherals can damage the port you're plugging them into, so I'd be wary about doing this. This is what I've heard, too, but I've never seen a PS/2 port being damaged from 'hot plugging' either. However, I've seen it quite a few times that unplugging and replugging the mouse or the keyboard leaves the device not working afterwards. I've seen this under FreeBSD as well as under (I hate to admit it, but it's the PC at work) Windows NT4 and 2000. I've read a magazine article once which said that this is not the OS's responsibility but the hardware (keyboard or mouse) itself crashing. So regardless if hot-plugging the keyboard works or not, if you plan to do this several times a day, you might want to thing about getting a KVM switch. Phil. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
Some years ago I worked as technical service, and i see al least 2 machines with the keyboard port burned because of this :-P, but also i know about too many people that do it and nothing happens ... but i like to do it :-P. On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:05:10AM +0200, Ph. Schulz wrote: I've read (although never actually seen myself - so take this with as large a grain of salt as you like) that hotplugging PS/2 peripherals can damage the port you're plugging them into, so I'd be wary about doing this. This is what I've heard, too, but I've never seen a PS/2 port being damaged from 'hot plugging' either. However, I've seen it quite a few times that unplugging and replugging the mouse or the keyboard leaves the device not working afterwards. I've seen this under FreeBSD as well as under (I hate to admit it, but it's the PC at work) Windows NT4 and 2000. I've read a magazine article once which said that this is not the OS's responsibility but the hardware (keyboard or mouse) itself crashing. So regardless if hot-plugging the keyboard works or not, if you plan to do this several times a day, you might want to thing about getting a KVM switch. Phil. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 06:38:03PM -0500, MiG wrote: Some years ago I worked as technical service, and i see al least 2 machines with the keyboard port burned because of this :-P, but also i know about too many people that do it and nothing happens ... but i like to do it :-P. I mean, i don't like to do it :-P, sorry for my bad english. On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:05:10AM +0200, Ph. Schulz wrote: I've read (although never actually seen myself - so take this with as large a grain of salt as you like) that hotplugging PS/2 peripherals can damage the port you're plugging them into, so I'd be wary about doing this. This is what I've heard, too, but I've never seen a PS/2 port being damaged from 'hot plugging' either. However, I've seen it quite a few times that unplugging and replugging the mouse or the keyboard leaves the device not working afterwards. I've seen this under FreeBSD as well as under (I hate to admit it, but it's the PC at work) Windows NT4 and 2000. I've read a magazine article once which said that this is not the OS's responsibility but the hardware (keyboard or mouse) itself crashing. So regardless if hot-plugging the keyboard works or not, if you plan to do this several times a day, you might want to thing about getting a KVM switch. Phil. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without keyboard.
Ph. Schulz writes: This is what I've heard, too, but I've never seen a PS/2 port being damaged from 'hot plugging' either. This is one of those things where it works ... except when it doesn't, and you fry the port or even the entire motherboard. It's never happened to me (as far as I know) but I know a number of people (some on FreeBSD lists) to whom it has. I've read a magazine article once which said that this is not the OS's responsibility but the hardware (keyboard or mouse) itself crashing. I believe this to be correct. So regardless if hot-plugging the keyboard works or not, if you plan to do this several times a day, you might want to thing about getting a KVM switch. Four port PS/2 KVMs are disgustingly cheap these days. USB, not so much. Robert Huff ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]