Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
The pcbsd project which uses FreeBSD is another option. On Aug 20, 2012 11:31 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/**freebsd/index.htmlhttp://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html . __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. That is a great resource for laptops, too bad it isn't mentioned in the Handbook compatibility chapter. We have purchased many desktop motherboards for FreeBSD over the years, from Intel, Gigabyte, ASUS, MSI and others. None mentioned FreeBSD compatibility, none was on any list promising FreeBSD compatibility and none has failed to boot and run well. That said, rarely the onboard ethernet has not been recognized and we had to add a PCI NIC until the next version of FreeBSD included the proper drivers. No NIC has ever been incompatible in our experience. We have not ever tested APM or ACPI, and if you follow the newsgroup you will know that those are sometimes problematic. Notice how few laptops support APM or ACPI with FreeBSD. Also, while onboard video has always worked for us, some people will notice that the drivers do not always provide the full performance available in Windows. We have not found the Handbook compatibility list very helpful. The list is mostly by chip, which card vendors don't mention in their literature. It would be nice to see a list of currently available products, by retail model number. That doesn't exist as far as I can tell. So it comes down mostly to your feelings about those issues. If you will be upset by less than optimal 3D graphics perforance, there is a risk. Otherwise, don't worry. But why order parts? If you want to learn FreeBSD, just take any old windows box and install FreeBSD over the existing windows install. It will work fine and won't cost you anything. daniel feenberg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
Daniel Feenberg writes: But why order parts? If you want to learn FreeBSD, just take any old windows box and install FreeBSD over the existing windows install. It will work fine and won't cost you anything. This was (close to) my gut reaction. If all you want it the learning experience, any machine made in the last 10 (15?) years that can install Windows can probably install FreeBSD. If/when you get past that and want (e,g,) a: high performance gaming box file server router/firewall high availability web server ... now we're talking about specific hardware. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. That is a great resource for laptops, too bad it isn't mentioned in the Handbook compatibility chapter. Suggestion: send-pr Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
On 6:56:26PM, Locksmith ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. The handbook is always a good place to start. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/hardware.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Building-a-FreeBSD-desktop-tp5735852.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. Best regards, James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org