Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Sorry, I agree with you, s/GUI/graphic based/ in my post. I've just Yes - graphics based. I use graphics based programs like gimp, links -g, opera, xv xzgv, gv and xdvi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
sincerely assume that. well here in poland people do see a difference, because computer has to be bought, while windoze can be pirated. in my 320 user network less than ten bought windoze, over 300 uses pirated one, 10 uses my X-terminals. and it's good for microsoft. if police in poland

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
User-friendliness is obviously subjective. Some people consider a my definition is that user friendly system does what i want, does it right and quickly. simply - it's my slave. not my master. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an old computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure of the capabilities of the machine. Granted, it could be only because she's ten, but I think we'd find a lot of people think

Re: X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI)

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am not following this. If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI, how would you define He probably equates a desktop environment (such as KDE/Gnome/etc.) to a GUI. most people exactly equates that and i stated i that such defined GUI is completely useless and actually takes over time and

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Bart Silverstrim
Rolf G Nielsen wrote: Reid Linnemann wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an old computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure of

X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI)

2007-08-10 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, there are plenty of nice other wm's good for that. I am not following this. If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI, how

Re: X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI)

2007-08-10 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Freitag 10 August 2007 10:57:38 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, there are plenty of nice other wm's good for that. I

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
idea how, and I was expecting a nice user-friendly GUI, like Windoze, but without the constant crashes. that's what most people expect. and thats why i say: Windows it the most windows compatible system available. don't change to other. In 1999 I purchased The complete FreeBSD, 3rd

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson
Hi Gerard, Gerard wrote: I was not aware of any place where they gave computers away. In the UK we call them skips. Not sure what the rest of the world calls them. [Large metal junk containers placed at the back of large buildings near the other bins. They're usually hired rather than

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
desktop system should be, so FreeBSD with GUI apps _is_ -- or can be if you want -- a perfect desktop system. i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, there are plenty of nice other wm's good for

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-09 Thread Reid Linnemann
Written by Wojciech Puchar on 08/09/07 12:04 desktop system should be, so FreeBSD with GUI apps _is_ -- or can be if you want -- a perfect desktop system. i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config,

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-09 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:04:50 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: desktop system should be, so FreeBSD with GUI apps _is_ -- or can be if you want -- a perfect desktop system. i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-09 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:15:08 -0500 Reid Linnemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an old computer. [...] Granted, it could be only because

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-09 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Reid Linnemann wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an old computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure of the capabilities of

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI

2007-08-09 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 08:20:13PM +0200, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an old computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface