Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-06 Thread Ceri Davies
Bethan,

On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 03:44:35PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
 ExportControls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Additionally, because FreeBSD contains what is considered strong 
  cryptography, French authorities (the DCSSI) requires that an 
  authorisation is obtained for the item if it is to be imported to, 
  supplied in, used in, or exported from France. 

FreeBSD is partly developed in France, if that makes any difference.

  It is Reuters policy to be complaint with all relevant regulations in the 
  countries they operate, and as Reuters will potentially be doing all of 
  the activities mentioned above it is essential that they obtain the 
  relevant authorisation from the DCSSI prior to importing to, supplying in, 
  using in, or exporting FreeBSD from France. Consequently, Reuters cannot 
  export FreeBSD from its server in the US to its French offices until said 
  authorisation has been obtained.
  
  Therefore, we would appreciate if you could investigate whether such an 
  authorisation has been obtained for FreeBSD v4.1, alternatively refer us 
  to a legal contact that may be able to answer our query.

Without wishing to offend him, Bill is just a user of FreeBSD, the same
as Reuters.  He is unlikely to wish to do that job for you.

Try the FreeBSD Foundation, contacted via
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/contact.shtml.  They are the closest
thing we have to legal representation.

The answer to your question, however, is extremely likely to be no.
There is no money for that.

Ceri
-- 
That must be wonderful!  I don't understand it at all.
  -- Moliere


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Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-05 Thread Bill Moran
ExportControls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Bill,
 
 Thank you for your prompt reply.
 
 Our client Reuters Ltd. operates a system whereby they collate a number of 
 products, approved for use by certain Reuters offices, onto a disk 
 (FreeBSD is part of these programmes). The assembly of the disk is done in 
 the UK, and upon completion the disk is sent to the US where it is loaded 
 onto a central server which the approved Reuters offices can access and 
 download the programme(s). 
 
 Consequently, this means that Reuters purchase the product in the UK, 
 export it to the US, and potentially import it again to France if a French 
 office is approved to install the product.
 
 Additionally, because FreeBSD contains what is considered strong 
 cryptography, French authorities (the DCSSI) requires that an 
 authorisation is obtained for the item if it is to be imported to, 
 supplied in, used in, or exported from France. 
 
 It is Reuters policy to be complaint with all relevant regulations in the 
 countries they operate, and as Reuters will potentially be doing all of 
 the activities mentioned above it is essential that they obtain the 
 relevant authorisation from the DCSSI prior to importing to, supplying in, 
 using in, or exporting FreeBSD from France. Consequently, Reuters cannot 
 export FreeBSD from its server in the US to its French offices until said 
 authorisation has been obtained.
 
 Therefore, we would appreciate if you could investigate whether such an 
 authorisation has been obtained for FreeBSD v4.1, alternatively refer us 
 to a legal contact that may be able to answer our query.
 
 Hopefully this motivates our query, but please do not hesitate to contact 
 me if you require additional information.
 
 I look forward to your reply, in the meantime, thank you very much for 
 your assistance.

First off, please don't top-post.

Secondly, you initially contacted the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which consists of volunteers who assist people with the use of FreeBSD
in their spare time.  It's poor form to contact a volunteer outside of
the list unless the volunteer has requested it.  I've returned this
discussion to the list to remedy that.

Thirdly, it sounds as if you want some sort of legal certification.  You're
not liable to find anyone who's willing to volunteer that sort of information.
I suggest you contact the FreeBSD Foundation
(http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/) which has some formal presence, and may
be able to help.  Otherwise, you may want to look here
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ for a vendor who is willing to provide
consulting services.

 Bethan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Good Afternoon,
  
  We are working with our client Reuters to help them comply with EU and 
 US 
  export control regulation. In this regard, Reuters have some Free BSD 
 v4.1 
  software, which they are sending to France. A declaration or 
 authorisation 
  may be needed for this software for import into, use in, supply in, or 
  export from France. Can you please advice us if FreeBSD have obtained a 
  French encryption authorisation for the above mentioned software from 
 the 
  DCSSI?
  
  If this is the case we would be grateful if you could provide us with a 
  copy of this authorisation, as Reuters will need this to export this 
  product to/from France, and the DCSSI does not supply this information 
 to 
  third parties.
 
 I am not a lawyer.  This is not legal advise.
 
 However:
 http://www.fr.freebsd.org/
 
 The site is actually _hosted_in_ France.  Thus you are wasting your time.
 There is no need to export the software at all, it's already in France.
 
 -- 
 Bill Moran
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Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Moran
Bethan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good Afternoon,
 
 We are working with our client Reuters to help them comply with EU and US 
 export control regulation. In this regard, Reuters have some Free BSD v4.1 
 software, which they are sending to France. A declaration or authorisation 
 may be needed for this software for import into, use in, supply in, or 
 export from France. Can you please advice us if FreeBSD have obtained a 
 French encryption authorisation for the above mentioned software from the 
 DCSSI?
 
 If this is the case we would be grateful if you could provide us with a 
 copy of this authorisation, as Reuters will need this to export this 
 product to/from France, and the DCSSI does not supply this information to 
 third parties.

I am not a lawyer.  This is not legal advise.

However:
http://www.fr.freebsd.org/

The site is actually _hosted_in_ France.  Thus you are wasting your time.
There is no need to export the software at all, it's already in France.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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