Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread Tom Vilot
Eric Schuele wrote:
I purchased mine from:
   http://www.pcdgloabl.com
Which as luck would have it is within a mile of my office.  So I just 
drove over there.

Terrific.
1. Mis-type of the url: it is actually http://www.pcdglobal.com  :)
2. Which model do you have? The Mini-PCI 802.11b/g AR5004?
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread John Birrell
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:52:43PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?

I have an 1150 and it works great with RELENG_5 for me. I don't have the
version with the internal wireless though. I use the bfe (Broadcom BCM4401)
ethernet. No problems with that.

If you get one, go straight to Dell's support site and get the latest bios.
I had to do that before X would work. There have been a few bios updates and
my 1150 was shipped with an out-dated bios which I thought lacked attention
to detail by Dell when they build the machines to order in Malaysia.

I got a CD R/W and DVD R and that works fine. USB2.0 ports function well
as does sound. Whenever I watch videos, I choose to use the 1150 for that.

Obviously the winmodem doesn't work with FreeBSD. That's the only device
that isn't recognised during boot.

Once thing I really like about it is being able to set the bios to boot
via the ethernet port. That makes net-booting FreeBSD for driver development
a breeze.

I run RELENG_5 installed on the hard disk and net-boot to CURRENT. If I
remember correctly, it took me about 10 minutes to get XP off it and FreeBSD
on.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  7 January 2005 at  9:46:23 +1100, John Birrell wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:52:43PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?

 I have an 1150 and it works great with RELENG_5 for me. I don't have the
 version with the internal wireless though. I use the bfe (Broadcom BCM4401)
 ethernet. No problems with that.

Thanks for the info.

 If you get one, go straight to Dell's support site and get the
 latest bios.  I had to do that before X would work. There have been
 a few bios updates and my 1150 was shipped with an out-dated bios
 which I thought lacked attention to detail by Dell when they build
 the machines to order in Malaysia.

Interesting.  I had a similar problem with my 5150 18 months ago (see
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jul2003.html#25 for details).  Is this
what you saw?

 Once thing I really like about it is being able to set the bios to
 boot via the ethernet port. That makes net-booting FreeBSD for
 driver development a breeze.

That sounds useful, indeed.

Greg
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread Eric Schuele
Tom Vilot wrote:
Eric Schuele wrote:
I purchased mine from:
   http://www.pcdgloabl.com
Which as luck would have it is within a mile of my office.  So I just 
drove over there.

Terrific.
1. Mis-type of the url: it is actually http://www.pcdglobal.com  :)
Yes.. thanks for correcting.
2. Which model do you have? The Mini-PCI 802.11b/g AR5004?
I purchased the 802.11a/b/g AR5004:5213+5112.  I have not been able to 
test the 802.11a... but b/g work just fine.  For whatever reason 
(someone may be able to answer) the card is detected as 5212a/b/g by 
ath.  Works fine so I'm happy.

ath0: Atheros 5212 mem 0xfafe-0xfafe irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2
ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 5ghz radio 3.6
ath0: Ethernet address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 
24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps

The prices I was quoted when I purchased:
Cost for the modules are:
Part Number  Description  Qty   Price   

T60H835.00   802.11a/b/g Mini - PCI Module  1 - 9 pcs
$75.00  
(Atheros:AR5213+AR5112) 40 pcs   $55.00 
T60H786.00   802.11b/g Mini - PCI Module1 - 9 pcs
$65.00  
(Atheros:AR5213+AR2112) 40 pcs   $45.00
They (Chris Bartlett) were nice enough to give me the 40pc price for a 
single.

DO NOTE:  They told me they do not do returns... also.. there was no 
packing.  They reached into a closed with thousands of them... wrapped 
the miniPCI in bubble wrap and handed it to me.  So there may be no 
docs/support or anything.  They apparently sell to OEM.  I didn't need 
anything but the card... so it didn't bother me.

HTH
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Sarunas Vancevicius
On 16:52, Wed 05 Jan 05, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?
 
 Greg

Hey Greg,

A college friend has one of these, I don't know much about it,
except that he is running Fedora Core 3 and had no luck trying to
get internal wireless card working, so he had to get a PCMCIA
wireless card.

If thats any helpful to you.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 11:19:16 +, Sarunas Vancevicius wrote:
 On 16:52, Wed 05 Jan 05, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?

 A college friend has one of these, I don't know much about it,
 except that he is running Fedora Core 3 and had no luck trying to
 get internal wireless card working, so he had to get a PCMCIA
 wireless card.

Thanks.

 If thats any helpful to you.

Well, Fedora Core 3 is Linux.  As it happens, at work I've just
installed it too.  I don't think a failure there has much relevance to
FreeBSD.  But thanks for the feedback.

Greg
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Eric Schuele
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
wireless card to work?
Greg
FWIW
I think the 1150 ships with either a truemobile 1350 or 1450 (your 
choice).  It's my understanding (from a quick google) that those are 
still broadcom devices.  I had a Truemobile 1300 (Broadcom), and had to 
use NDISulator to get it running.  That was with 5.2.1.  Haven't looked 
into it much but I think NDIS is built into the kernel now??  Not sure.

My point is... you may have to use the windows drivers with a wrapper to 
get it to work.  It worked well... but I was running from windows to 
begin with.

On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card 
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if your 
interested.

So you might dig around and try to find out positively whose card those 
miniPCI devices are.

HTH
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RE: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Kiffin Gish
I've been the happy owner of a Dell Inspiron 8200 with a TrueMobile wireless
card.

Dual boot Windows/XP and FreeBSD 5.3, and so far never had any major issues.

Hope this helps...

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 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?
 
 Greg
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 19:24:27 +0100, Kiffin Gish wrote:
 On  Wednesday, January 05, 2005 07:23, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?

 I've been the happy owner of a Dell Inspiron 8200 with a TrueMobile
 wireless card.

I suppose it's the out of sequence reply that made you miss:

 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me 

 Dual boot Windows/XP and FreeBSD 5.3, and so far never had any major
  issues.

 Hope this helps...

Not really.  As I said, I have other Dell laptops, and on the whole
I'm happy.  I'm looking for input on the 1150.  Thanks anyway.

Greg
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 11:20:31 -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
 of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
 Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
 good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
 wireless card to work?

 My point is... you may have to use the windows drivers with a wrapper to
 get it to work. 

Yes, that was my suspicion as well, and one of the reasons for my
question.

 On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card
 which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if
 your interested.

Thanks, but no.  I have wireless cards here.  I was wondering about
the onboard card.

 So you might dig around and try to find out positively whose card
 those miniPCI devices are.

That's what I'm trying to do, and also (if possible) get more details
about how to get them running.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Tom Vilot
Eric Schuele wrote:
On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card 
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if 
your interested. 

I might be interested in one of those. I have a Dell Inspiron 8200.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Eric Schuele
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 11:20:31 -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had issues before.
Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
wireless card to work?
My point is... you may have to use the windows drivers with a wrapper to
get it to work. 

Yes, that was my suspicion as well, and one of the reasons for my
question.

On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if
your interested.

Thanks, but no.  I have wireless cards here.  I was wondering about
the onboard card.
I was referring to the internal onboard (miniPCI) card.  You could 
purchase the laptop without one (if that's an option) and then drop in 
your own.  I chose an Atheros based one... but there are Prism based 
ones floating around as well.


So you might dig around and try to find out positively whose card
those miniPCI devices are.

That's what I'm trying to do, and also (if possible) get more details
about how to get them running.
I can give you very specific instruction on how I got the 1300 
(Broadcom) working with 5.2.1... but I don't think thats what your after.

Greg
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Eric Schuele
Tom Vilot wrote:
Eric Schuele wrote:
On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card 
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if 
your interested. 

I might be interested in one of those. I have a Dell Inspiron 8200.
I purchased mine from:
   http://www.pcdgloabl.com
Which as luck would have it is within a mile of my office.  So I just 
drove over there.

DO NOTE: They have no return policy, as they prefer to cater to OEMs. 
But I've been very happy with mine.


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