RE: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
Onderwerp: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? Aston If you download the cd BETA2 then you see BETA2 But if you going to csup the latest source from the RELENG_7 branch it will be named PRERELEASE again. See Beta as just a Timestamp name for the PRERELEASE branch. Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1742 - Release Date: 23-10-2008 15:29 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? This question keeps coming up. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no BETA2 tag to follow. No one is sure at this point where the BETA2 string has come from (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply name the releases PRERELEASE-MMDD to signify the build date. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
Masoom Shaikh skrev: Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? Aston ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just asked the same question this morning. See the archives for the discussion and the answer that was given. /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? This question keeps coming up. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no BETA2 tag to follow. No one is sure at this point where the BETA2 string has come from (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply name the releases PRERELEASE-MMDD to signify the build date. When you run make release you have to set BUILDNAME to something. That value then sets the value of RELEASE in sys/conf/newvers.sh, which then affects uname output. I suppose everyone has an opinion as to what to name things, a classic bikeshed item. My opinion is that if BETA2 is an arbitrary name and there's no way to know the timestamp it was built from in CVS, then replacing BETA2 with the timestamp used for the CVS checkout makes sense. Of course CVS is good down to the second, so it would have to be MMDDHHMMSS...and at that point 7.1-PRERELEASE-20081020071001 starts making BETA2 look good. - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJAb2iJvkB8SevrssRAvDqAJ4glXZL7dtiMLlaU2r8glSSa3XEsgCfY2ag S7+FOqNjJ10miUOLuq/AEEQ= =VzUi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE To: Masoom Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:26 AM On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? This question keeps coming up. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no BETA2 tag to follow. No one is sure at this point where the BETA2 string has come from (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply name the releases PRERELEASE-MMDD to signify the build date. It seems likely. I've only ever seen -PRERELEASE and -STABLE, when tracking RELENG_[0-9] branch. On the other hand, I have seen -RELEASE, -BETA, -RC, etc, when installing from media. Perhaps differentiating these isn't a bad idea, however, when it comes to uname output in PR's, despite the queries it generates over here. A media install can always be safely assumed to be a given set of code, while if someone is tracking a branch via cvsup, the build time would show up in uname output, however the user may still need to be queried for rcsid's or asked to cvsup to the latest if the issue is considered to possibly be a base system and/or kernel code issue. It's probably worth discussion and consideration, though. I don't know if/how useful the utility of the current naming conventions are to folks trying to solve potential code bug PRs. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
thanks to all those gr8 comments, I learnt. and sorry for creating noise, I was in office and thus could not put required effort. as far as liking of release names goes, I feel BETA-x naming practice serves the purpose, it makes sense to casual users. changing version with date is too fastjust my two cents if they count ;-) Aston On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM, mdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE To: Masoom Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:26 AM On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? This question keeps coming up. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no BETA2 tag to follow. No one is sure at this point where the BETA2 string has come from (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply name the releases PRERELEASE-MMDD to signify the build date. It seems likely. I've only ever seen -PRERELEASE and -STABLE, when tracking RELENG_[0-9] branch. On the other hand, I have seen -RELEASE, -BETA, -RC, etc, when installing from media. Perhaps differentiating these isn't a bad idea, however, when it comes to uname output in PR's, despite the queries it generates over here. A media install can always be safely assumed to be a given set of code, while if someone is tracking a branch via cvsup, the build time would show up in uname output, however the user may still need to be queried for rcsid's or asked to cvsup to the latest if the issue is considered to possibly be a base system and/or kernel code issue. It's probably worth discussion and consideration, though. I don't know if/how useful the utility of the current naming conventions are to folks trying to solve potential code bug PRs. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
