RE: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew P. Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:51 PM To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Ansar Mohammed; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical) On 10/6/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0400, Ansar Mohammed wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. Not commercial support, since FreeBSD isn't a commercial project. Kris I'm sorry, but all effective legislative systems (including that of the USA) allow officially non-profit and non- commercial organizations to take on commercial activities. And many such organizations exercise this right. IMHO, there's no official commercial support, because money can hardly buy more than what's already available for free. This is frankly rediculous. The question of whether the Project offers commercial support depends highly on your definition of The FreeBSD Project The official FreeBSD Project membership is comprised of a great many individuals. A lot of those individuals work at companies that sell FreeBSD consultative support. I think therefore the question of whether the Project offers support or not is moot. Yes, it does from an individual level. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
Ansar Mohammed wrote: Does the FreeBSD project offer commercial support? I notice that the FreeBSD mall offers commercial support. It's a fine question, but it's well documented on the Project's web site: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. On 10/6/05, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ansar Mohammed wrote: Does the FreeBSD project offer commercial support? I notice that the FreeBSD mall offers commercial support. It's a fine question, but it's well documented on the Project's web site: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
On 10/6/05, Ansar Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. FreeBSD offers non-commercial support through mailing-lists and doc-project (FAQs and Handbooks) which is probably the most comprehensive, active and effective support there is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
Yeah, but also the most irrelevant when it comes to supply chain folk. On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Andrew P. wrote: On 10/6/05, Ansar Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. FreeBSD offers non-commercial support through mailing-lists and doc-project (FAQs and Handbooks) which is probably the most comprehensive, active and effective support there is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
FreeBSD offers non-commercial support through mailing-lists and doc-project (FAQs and Handbooks) which is probably the most comprehensive, active and effective support there is. It's a blame game as much as it is a genuine need for commercial help. As much as mailing lists and community support are strong and effective, that's not the kind of comfort level that corporates are going for, especially if they are betting their million-dollar product/ server on it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. Basically FreeBSD support is what you see on the web page. In some sense, you could say that all of FreeBSD- development and support - is by third party sources or maybe that all third party contributers are part of the FreeBSD project at some level. In other words, development in FreeBSD land comes from those who use it to provide services - of any kind including supporting other's use of it for hire. But, no, the FreeBSD project per se does not offer commercial support. jerry On 10/6/05, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ansar Mohammed wrote: Does the FreeBSD project offer commercial support? I notice that the FreeBSD mall offers commercial support. It's a fine question, but it's well documented on the Project's web site: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0400, Ansar Mohammed wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. Not commercial support, since FreeBSD isn't a commercial project. Kris pgpOutCgq3qeA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
On 10/6/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0400, Ansar Mohammed wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. Not commercial support, since FreeBSD isn't a commercial project. Kris I'm sorry, but all effective legislative systems (including that of the USA) allow officially non-profit and non- commercial organizations to take on commercial activities. And many such organizations exercise this right. IMHO, there's no official commercial support, because money can hardly buy more than what's already available for free. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:55:58PM -0400, Christian Kuhtz wrote: Yeah, but also the most irrelevant when it comes to supply chain folk. Supply-chain folk? Is that a euphemism for suits? My employer is audited by clients on a regular basis. If you have your internal documentation and processes together, it doesn't seem to bother any of the corporate-types we run up against in the health-care industry that we are running a freely-available, open-source OS. If you require commercial support I'd like to think there is a commercial entity that can lease such an option to you. The FreeBSD foundation hasn't gone down that road yet, unlike some other projects. Maybe someday, but if you need a commercial support option that is co-branded with your Operating System, you could do worse than Solaris, or Red Hat Enterprise. -danny On 10/6/05, Ansar Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. FreeBSD offers non-commercial support through mailing-lists and doc-project (FAQs and Handbooks) which is probably the most comprehensive, active and effective support there is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Support (Commerical)
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:55:58PM -0400, Christian Kuhtz wrote: Yeah, but also the most irrelevant when it comes to supply chain folk. Supply-chain folk? Is that a euphemism for suits? Supply Chain Management is a whole field which probably most people from the old days might have called the purchasing department. jerry My employer is audited by clients on a regular basis. If you have your internal documentation and processes together, it doesn't seem to bother any of the corporate-types we run up against in the health-care industry that we are running a freely-available, open-source OS. If you require commercial support I'd like to think there is a commercial entity that can lease such an option to you. The FreeBSD foundation hasn't gone down that road yet, unlike some other projects. Maybe someday, but if you need a commercial support option that is co-branded with your Operating System, you could do worse than Solaris, or Red Hat Enterprise. I think there are some persons out there who sell FreeBSD support for a fee. jerry -danny On 10/6/05, Ansar Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I am interested in finding out if there is support that is offered by the FreeBSD project, not from third party vendors. FreeBSD offers non-commercial support through mailing-lists and doc-project (FAQs and Handbooks) which is probably the most comprehensive, active and effective support there is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
