Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. 486 hardware with three NICs, a CF drive, and run off of a few watts of DC power tend not to free. that's the adventage. but edimax 6104K router with 5 ethernets running netbsd is both cheaper smaller and faster with it's 175Mhz

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? In all seriousness, if you want to roll your own based on FreeBSD, I have a couple of these units that I've been testing internally with that run FreeBSD off of a thumb drive. They are

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand
Steve Bertrand wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? In all seriousness, if you want to roll your own based on FreeBSD, I have a couple of these units that I've been testing internally with that run FreeBSD off of a

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On May 29, 2008, at 1:36 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: that's the adventage. but edimax 6104K router with 5 ethernets running netbsd is both cheaper smaller and faster with it's 175Mhz 2 instr/cycle MIPS CPU. 16MB RAM+2MB flash isn't much but enough to fit. I will keep that in mind the next

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ability to route several C-class networks through multiple incoming fiber connections using BGP4, including VLAN support ... we're trying to keep the DC as 'FreeBSD centric' as we can, which is why the interest in someone like Juniper vs going

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? define what enterprise level router is - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo .

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Steve Bertrand
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? define what enterprise level router is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? :) Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD? define what enterprise level router is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD and configure :) (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability)

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Robert Huff
Bob McConnell writes: define what enterprise level router is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD and configure :) (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) Finding

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Robert Huff Bob McConnell writes: define what enterprise level router is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD and configure :) (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:51:35AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote: From: Robert Huff Bob McConnell writes: define what enterprise level router is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Bob McConnell
Wojciech Puchar define what enterprise level router is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD and configure :) (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) Finding a box with that enough PCI

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Jerry B. Altzman On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31:24AM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Jerry B. Altzman
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L motherboard. It has 3 PCI slots and

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Jerry B. Altzman
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31:24AM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a switch), which

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Rob
Bob McConnell wrote: I don't need that many Ethernet ports, but I do need most of those PCI slots. I was unable to locate a box with more than four slots and a warranty that was acceptable to our Production group. I'm still not sure about the warranty or that we can buy it in a case with power

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:38 PM To: Matthew Donovan Cc: Marc G. Fournier; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:35

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry B. Altzman Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:31 AM To: Erik Trulsson Cc: Bob McConnell; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
(pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. not true. 5 PCI slots isn't uncommon+ISA slots. ISA slot is OK for video card (easy to find in scraps ;). ___

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. Six slots X quad-port network cards = 24 interfaces. If you need more than that, it's probably worth investing in specialized hard-/software. Robert Huff Where did you find a

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll packet headers find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for $100: http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm Try Ebay for the Adaptec ANA-6944-TX. It's a 4 port based on the old DEC chipset (de driver) Usual can be had for = $10. but prepare for problems connecting this with other devices. usually works well with

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
They are very expensive. A Juniper is not based on FreeBSD. It uses FreeBSD as the control interface. The actual routing happens in specialized ASICS that Juniper custom-builds. good for multiple gigabits traffic or more. for lower speed - not worth of.

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On May 28, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Rob wrote: These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for $100: http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've been happy with using

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall http://m0n0.ch/wall/ or pfsense http://www.pfsense.com/ both FreeBSD based. small but

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Tom Van Looy
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On May 28, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Rob wrote: These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for $100: http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've been

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Tom Van Looy
Wojciech Puchar wrote: been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. No it's not, they consume electricity. Soekris boxes are designed for low-power. I had a 4501 and now have a 5501.

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On May 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall small but expensive. used

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Jon Radel
Tom Van Looy wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. No it's not, they consume electricity. Soekris boxes are designed for low-power. I had a 4501 and now have a 5501. And, other

RE: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Radel Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:24 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... Tom Van Looy wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: been happy with using

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-27 Thread Matthew Donovan
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email .

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-27 Thread Outback Dingo
That would be Juniper On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Matthew Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:35 -0400, Matthew Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? Juniptor makes routers based on freebsd. Sorry for the spelling

Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org)