Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-22 Thread arden
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 02:36, Tom McLaughlin wrote: On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 02:59, Lloyd Hayes wrote: Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix. Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... I'f you're going to go with Linux then I'd

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-22 Thread Curtis Almond
I have been playing with Linux and BSD for about 3 years. I have landed on the following. 1. FreeBSD is great for non-cluster server install bases. 2. FreeBSD is great for a workstation if you really really like compiling and hand editing config files. 3. Linux is best for a workstation desktop

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-21 Thread Lloyd Hayes
In reading the reviews, the book/CD set got the most praise. However, from the reviews, it sounds like it needs to be updated. Lloyd Hayes Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ [EMAIL

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-21 Thread Lloyd Hayes
Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix. Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... Seriously, one thing that catches my attention is that I don't see any really great differences between the BSD (Any version) and the Linux community. In doing

Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)

2004-06-21 Thread Lloyd Hayes
I liked your story. Here is mine. In the 1980s, I was offered programming jobs at Microsoft and Intuit, and few other companies. I wasn't sure if I was willing to commit to working full time on computers. Up until this point, writing computer programs had simply been a hobby. So, I went back to

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-21 Thread Muhammad Reza
BSD cant do multipath routing behind NAT, just like iproute(8) Linux, hope Paul Hening Kamp Patch will work... regards reza Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix. Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... Seriously, one thing that catches my

Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)

2004-06-21 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-21 01:42, Lloyd Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll repeat this so there is no misunderstanding. The people here have been great in their response to help! But there is also no getting around the fact that I am much older (54) and less able to absorb new ideas as fast That's

Re: FreeBSD weakness

2004-06-21 Thread hoe-waa
On 2004-06-21 01:42, Lloyd Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll repeat this so there is no misunderstanding. The people here have been great in their response to help! But there is also no getting around the fact that I am much older (54) and less able to absorb new ideas as fast ALoha

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-21 Thread Tom McLaughlin
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 02:59, Lloyd Hayes wrote: Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix. Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... I'f you're going to go with Linux then I'd recommend Mandrake. Many people would also recommend Suse as

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-20 Thread arden
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 20:33, Tom McLaughlin wrote: On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 14:23, Lloyd Hayes wrote: I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting errors again So I just ordered 3 books on

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-20 Thread Don Tyson
[snipped] Since I really can't from looking at my bookshelf, can anyone recommend a book with a few good chapters on general unix concepts to get a completely green user familiar and comfortable with the way things are done? Comming from $OTHER_OS to unix can be daunting but once you get

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Remko Lodder
Lloyd Hayes wrote: I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting errors again So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews posted there about the books, people were

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Tom McLaughlin
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 14:23, Lloyd Hayes wrote: I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting errors again So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews posted

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Jorn Argelo
Lloyd Hayes wrote: I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting errors again So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews posted there about the books, people were

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Tom McLaughlin
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote: Lloyd Hayes wrote: I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting errors again So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread peter lageotakes
--- Lloyd Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting errors again So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews posted there

Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread j . e . drews
Hi Lloyd: I heartily recommend FreeBSD: An Open-Source OS for your PC. by Annelise Anderson http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html This is the book for absolute beginners. If you think a port is a place where ships dock and bash is a goth discoteque dance, then this is the book you should be

Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)

2004-06-19 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez
Hi Lloyd, Let me share you my experience with learning freebsd. I promise you... you'll throw away those expensive books that you have bought after reading my story.. A few months ago, I was totally a Windows user. I've already heard about Linux from a friend but not exactly Unix.. That

Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)

2004-06-19 Thread Denny Jodeit
- Original Message - From: Mark Jayson Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lloyd Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story) Hi Lloyd, Let me share you my experience with learning freebsd. I