Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-08 Thread Barnaby Scott
Peter Schuller wrote: My understanding from the reading I have done is that in a situation like this where power outages are a danger (and presuably having the UPS signal the server to shut down gracefully is not practical), you need to make the file system as robust as possible in the first

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Schuller
Exactly, which is why I thought that just bypassing all those interventions with -y was 'brushing under the carpet'. No? Ah I see. Yes. Given that all bets are off, it's hoping for the best ;) I realise it would normally be excessively cautious to go for synchronous mounting, but what about

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-07 Thread Peter Schuller
If you are running without write caching turned on (which is the default), That should be, if you are running WITH write caching turned on. -- / Peter Schuller PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-07 Thread Peter Schuller
My understanding from the reading I have done is that in a situation like this where power outages are a danger (and presuably having the UPS signal the server to shut down gracefully is not practical), you need to make the file system as robust as possible in the first place, rather than rely

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Bart Silverstrim
Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how can we use FreeBSD in a remote location without needing to intervene in

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Bart Silverstrim wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how can we use FreeBSD in a remote location without

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Vince
Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how can we use FreeBSD in a remote location without needing to intervene in

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Vince wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how can we use FreeBSD in a remote location without needing to

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Robert Huff wrote: Randy Ramsdell writes: What is the value of background_fsck in /etc/rc.conf ? This isn't set. Was is supposed to be? So far, I have only installed applications we need. And everything seem fine except the reboot issue. I'm going to jump in here.

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Daniel Bye
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:42:22AM -0500, Randy Ramsdell wrote: Oh, Is there a way to not receive 2 messages for every reply to this thread? Something like this in ~/.procmailrc :0 Wh: msgid.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 msgid.cache or like this in ~/.mailfilter `reformail -D 8000 duplicate.cache`

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:50:55PM -0500, Randy Ramsdell wrote: PS. I am confused about why so many people are replying to the list and my personal e-mail. This one was sent to me only. Others were sent to me and the list. Actually, every other reply. Is this normal for the list as I am

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Bart Silverstrim
Randy Ramsdell wrote: I think I will just set the rc.conf variable to answer Y to fsck questions unless there is a better way. A side note, this system has been hard shutdown two times and each time required intervention. We also use several Linux system ( reiserfs and ext3 ) and raely do I

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Schuller
Well any number of things, but the most recent was a prolonged power outage. It is important to differentiate between expected fsck activity and unexpected. If you are running without write caching turned on (which is the default), a power outtage will constitute a crash from which a file

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread RW
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:42:22 -0500 Randy Ramsdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince wrote: What is the value of background_fsck in /etc/rc.conf ? This isn't set. Was is supposed to be? No, it's on by default, but there's an early check to determine if the background check can be run.

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Barnaby Scott
On Thu, December 6, 2007 4:42 pm, Randy Ramsdell wrote: Vince wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread NetOpsCenter
Randy Ramsdell wrote: Robert Huff wrote: Randy Ramsdell writes: What is the value of background_fsck in /etc/rc.conf ? This isn't set. Was is supposed to be? So far, I have only installed applications we need. And everything seem fine except the reboot issue. I'm going to

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread Ivan Voras
Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how can we use FreeBSD in a remote location without needing to intervene in

Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-06 Thread NetOpsCenter
Randy Ramsdell wrote: Vince wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: We started using FreeBSD for some network monitoring, but have found that a hard reboot forces us to answer filesytem questions on boot. Is there a way to mount each filesystem without this? Or how can we use FreeBSD in a remote