Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:46, VeeJay wrote:

> On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?
>
> Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST     or     cvsup should be Run FIRST?


Check out this URL for more definitive information:

Chapter 21 The Cutting Edge
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

Then continue onto:

Chapter 8 Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html

Then move onto:

8.2 Why Build a Custom Kernel?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-custom-kernel.html

Then check out:

8.3 Building and Installing a Custom Kernel

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html

and:

8.4 The Configuration File

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html

Then continue onto:

21.4 Rebuilding “world”

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

That should give you enough information to get started.


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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Derek Ragona

cvsup to get the latest security updates, then do your rebuilds.

At 11:46 AM 11/18/2006, VeeJay wrote:

Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

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BR / vj
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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Armin Arh
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 06:46:56PM +0100, VeeJay wrote:
> Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?
Most people do not need a custom Kernel, just some modules added at runtime.

On What part of source do you intend to run cvsup?
New Kernel should be run in order to provide binaries
with system calls not available in old Kernel.
Compiling something with new Kernel headers in place,
this may be necessary in general.

Most applications run nicely without upgrading Kernel, you
can even switch back to an older one.

Most of the time i "upgrade" by running a new kernel (for weeks :) at first,
replacing system libs etc. afterwards.

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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 11/18/06, VeeJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?


None if you don't want to update it. OTOH, if you want
to do that, you should update the sources before
building anything because whatever you build, it is
built from sources.
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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Russell E. Meek

Quoting VeeJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

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BR / vj
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cvsup should be run first.



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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On November 18, 2006 6:46:56 PM +0100 VeeJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?


It won't do you any good to rebuild the kernel unless you first cvsup the 
new sources.  You'd just be building the same kernel that you already have.


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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Armin Pirkovitsch
VeeJay wrote:
> Hello
> 
> On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?
> 
> Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?
> 
If you want to update your system (base, not ports), you first have to
run cvsup and then make buildworld, kernel etc
If you just want to modify your kernel there is no need for a cvsup at
all (except you want to update of the ports tree)

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