Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-26 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Polytropon cc list,
I wrote:
 
   You could look at man fsdb
  
  FreeBSD offers a lot of versatile diagnostic and rescue
  tools, and surely fsdb is one of them. Others, provided
  by the base system, are fetch -rR device and also
  recoverdisk.
  
  In the ports collection you'll find tools like ddrescue,
  dd_rescue, ffs2recov, magicrescue, testdisk, scan_ffs,
  recoverjpeg, foremost and photorec. And finally there is
  The Sleuth Kit (with its tools fls, dls, ils and autopsy).
 
 Could you please submit a send-pr to add that useful list to man
 fsdb ?  (If you dont want to i would, but as you obviously know
 this area better ... :-)

I saw no answer to this  none in archive beyond this
http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201105211952.p4LJqHcX091659
So I searched,  sent a send-pr

Polytropon, 2 tools you mentioned I couldnt find,
if you or others have info please add to 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157351
Thanks

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-23 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Reference:
 From:         Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
 Date:         Fri, 20 May 2011 11:08:21 -0400
 Message-id:   banlktikm6asm5uddryhqmb3w_ruxvd4...@mail.gmail.com
[...]

 Announcing you'r thinking if suing the 1st rescuer,
 might make some people might be nervous in being 2nd rescuer.


grin

Yeah, really didn't think of that, I'm just so pissed that I think
we're willing to pay the extra forensic work to find out. You know,
when you have that feeling that someone took you as stupid, and these
cases of desperation people tend to make mistakes like I did, instead
of doing some background search, you immediately fall victim of con
artists, like I __just know__ these guys are.

I mean the flashy Web site, the first google sponsored link, the
insistence on not dropping off the dirve (which I did and really did
not feel comfortable with the installations, you know, but with the
desperation we all tend to fall victims to these fraudulent mock ups),
I guess I just wanted to be wrong. Then the technical mumbo-jumbo, the
long delays, you know it all adds up man. I honestly think these
people ripped me off _a lot of money_ that you have to commit up
front. It's just a freaking scam and I would like to blow their cover
and shut the down. We should never let people screw us like this.


 You could look at man fsdb


It's a clear hardware failure.

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 Julian
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Re: Other lists exist too - Was Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Robert,
Thanks for your repsonse,
I mailed postmas...@freebsd.org that this thread exists, 
invited him to consider list definitions in light of past, present
 possible future response that may be psoted on this thread.

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Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Reference:
 From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org 
 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:08:21 -0400 
 Message-id:   banlktikm6asm5uddryhqmb3w_ruxvd4...@mail.gmail.com 

Alejandro Imass wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just
 ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has
 the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives
 to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things:
 
 1) Forensics on the supposed head-replecement mumbo-jumbo/scam crap of
 the other lab
 2) Recovery of the data of the back-up drive
 
 I guess this only happens once in a lifetime when both drives die, but
 I can't risk the second drive to a non-certified lab.
 
 I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me
 to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data.
 
 It would be nice to know if the lab can actually do #1 and certify my
 concerns and willing to testify in court because I want to press legal
 charges against the other lab if they in fact ripped me off and
 jeopardized my data. But if they can't I still need to recover the
 data! HELP!
 
 Thanks beforehand !

Announcing you'r thinking if suing the 1st rescuer,
might make some people might be nervous in being 2nd rescuer.

You could look at man fsdb

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-21 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 21 May 2011 21:14:39 +0200, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:
 Alejandro Imass wrote:
  Hi folks,
  
  I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just
  ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has
  the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives
  to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things:
  
  1) Forensics on the supposed head-replecement mumbo-jumbo/scam crap of
  the other lab
  2) Recovery of the data of the back-up drive
  
  I guess this only happens once in a lifetime when both drives die, but
  I can't risk the second drive to a non-certified lab.
  
  I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me
  to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data.
  
  It would be nice to know if the lab can actually do #1 and certify my
  concerns and willing to testify in court because I want to press legal
  charges against the other lab if they in fact ripped me off and
  jeopardized my data. But if they can't I still need to recover the
  data! HELP!
  
  Thanks beforehand !
 
 You could look at man fsdb

FreeBSD offers a lot of versatile diagnostic and rescue
tools, and surely fsdb is one of them. Others, provided
by the base system, are fetch -rR device and also
recoverdisk.

In the ports collection you'll find tools like ddrescue,
dd_rescue, ffs2recov, magicrescue, testdisk, scan_ffs,
recoverjpeg, foremost and photorec. And finally there is
The Sleuth Kit (with its tools fls, dls, ils and autopsy).

Those tools keep you from spending money to companies
who also use software (this one or something else). You
could also waste money on recovery programs that won't
work, so trying to use the tools mentioned would be the
first step.

I may give two additional advices in this context:

1. Do not work with the original disk. Make a dd copy
   and work with the image.

2. Read about what you're dealing with. This may consume
   some tome, but it really helps understanding what the
   problem is, and therefore helps finding a solution.

This is the part of the story that I know from my own
desaster. :-)

But as soon as you encounter hardware problems with the
disk, you should try to find a recovery lab you can
trust. It can be a very complicated search, and the
result will traditionally also be expensive. This is
the case when they can do something you can't do on
yourself (e. g. disasselmbling a disk, exchanging
heads in a clean-room environment) - it's mostly a
matter of dealing with hardware.


-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-21 Thread Mark Felder
On Sat, 21 May 2011 14:14:39 -0500, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com  
wrote:



I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me
to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data.


Gillware, Inc.

Here's a referral code as well: 13967

http://www.gillware.com/


Regards,


Mark



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Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Polytropon cc list, you wrote

  You could look at man fsdb
 
 FreeBSD offers a lot of versatile diagnostic and rescue
 tools, and surely fsdb is one of them. Others, provided
 by the base system, are fetch -rR device and also
 recoverdisk.
 
 In the ports collection you'll find tools like ddrescue,
 dd_rescue, ffs2recov, magicrescue, testdisk, scan_ffs,
 recoverjpeg, foremost and photorec. And finally there is
 The Sleuth Kit (with its tools fls, dls, ils and autopsy).

Could you please submit a send-pr to add that useful list to man
fsdb ?  (If you dont want to i would, but as you obviously know
this area better ... :-)

Cheers,
Julian
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Other lists exist too - Was Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
For Alejandro Imass as original poster re. Hardware Recovery Company:
FreebSD has a special mail list for file systeme
it's name is f...@freebsd.org.
(we also have hardware@ etc)

For all,
Questions@ started as a catch all fallback address for simple beginners
questions from the newly installed, who didn't know /  hadn't yet read
  http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html
  
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
to find where more exactly one might ask a question.

Recently questions@ seems to be performing roughly the same purpose
as hackers@ list, a random jamboree/ mellange of topics, which
doesnt make much sense to me (where theyre posted, not the content
of the questions), I think a lot of questions@ traffic would be
better posted to hackers@ or other themed @freebsd.org lists.

Cheers,
Julian
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[OT] Re: Hardware Recovery Company

2011-05-20 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just
 ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has
 the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives
 to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things:


Sorry people, forgot the OT

Thanks!
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