Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
ThinkDifferently wrote: Michael Powell-6 wrote: ThinkDifferently wrote: In my BIOS there is the following... Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter] 1. SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C 2. Bootable Add-in Cards So what happens when you choose 2. Bootable Add-in Cards, save the setting and reboot with [Hard Disk] as First Boot Device? No change. :-( Well the only other idea I have right now is that perhaps sysinstall lied to you about what it wrote out to the mirror. It thinks it has successfully completed an install but maybe failed to write the boot loader, or more, and is misleading. Next thing I would try is to boot from the LivsFS CD and attempt to mount the mirror to someplace such as /mnt. If it gets mounted go examine what's there. If it was newfs'd successfully and the install is good then there will be a file system with all the normal bits you'd expect to see. If all that's there maybe it's munged the mbr and/or partition table. Far fetched maybe but something to eliminate. When you can't figure out what it is, figure out what it isn't, until you back it into a corner. :-) There is also another thing which I don't know enough about, but have noticed a little traffic about. Try searching for issues people have had about device renumbering. That really shouldn't be an issue with a hardware RAID controller but maybe some of the related info may spark an idea. I'm also a little curious that the controller card itself could possibly have some hardware defect. An easy way to rule it out would be to try with another OS such as Linux and/or Windows. If you see the same behavior the card is defective. If not the problem is somehow FreeBSD related. It's the old divide and conquer paradigm - if there actually is a hardware defect present all the mucking around in software isn't going to change anything. The first place to drive in the wedge is hardware vs software. If you can prove the hardware is functioning correctly then you know which road you have to go down. Sorry to not be more helpful here, but the couple of times in the past that I've used old Highpoints it was just create array, reboot, install to ar0 (older PATA IDE array) and it was done. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
Michael Powell-6 wrote: Sorry to not be more helpful here, but the couple of times in the past that I've used old Highpoints it was just create array, reboot, install to ar0 (older PATA IDE array) and it was done. Well, I've been on the phone with both Gigabyte's and Highpoint's technical support staff. Highpoint was very cavalier about the whole thing. He actually said, well, when it comes to hardware, we're just guessing. %-| DUH! You're in the hardware business! Gigabyte's tech support guy was a whole lot more helpful, but in the end he couldn't get it to work either. His working theory is that since the motherboard has its own RAID controller (even if it's disabled), it may be interfering with the RocketRAID's ability to intervene using the same mechanism (called Interrupt 13). I even upgraded the RocketRAID's firmware in an attempt to get it working. Nothing changed the situation. So, my working theory is that this RocketRAID is not compatible with my motherboard and vice versa. In fact, I checked Highpoint's web site, and they have a motherboard support list. It is in fact an astonishingly tiny list, mostly (w)Intel boards, and quite obscure. A very small niche. To summarize... Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H RAID Card: Highpoint RocketRAID 3120 I could get the RAID card to function, but I couldn't boot from it. Perhaps it's remotely possible that there's still something else to try, but I have very little patience when there's a 15 day return policy. %-O -- So, now I'm trying to get software RAID to work. See... http://www.nabble.com/Help-with%3A--atacontrol-create-RAID1-ad4-ad6-to21511186.html http://www.nabble.com/Help-with%3A--atacontrol-create-RAID1-ad4-ad6-to21511186.html I'm not having much luck with that either. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-needed-w--HighPoint-RocketRAID-3120-on-FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE-tp21479839p21517692.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
ThinkDifferently wrote: [snip] Gigabyte's tech support guy was a whole lot more helpful, but in the end he couldn't get it to work either. His working theory is that since the motherboard has its own RAID controller (even if it's disabled), it may be interfering with the RocketRAID's ability to intervene using the same mechanism (called Interrupt 13). I even upgraded the RocketRAID's firmware in an attempt to get it working. Nothing changed the situation. The only other thing is if you can disable INT 13 boot in the motherboard BIOS so as to leave the one on the HighPoint card the only one active. You would still change the below to Bootable Add-in Cards. The theory does explain this though: In my BIOS there is the following... Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter] 1. SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C 2. Bootable Add-in Cards The RocketRAID card should not be showing up here on line 1 as SCSI-0. I was initially very confused when I saw this, but this would match the Gigabyte tech guys theory. This line should only be involving devices on the 1rst controller, e.g. the mobo one. So, my working theory is that this RocketRAID is not compatible with my motherboard and vice versa. In fact, I checked Highpoint's web site, and they have a motherboard support list. It is in fact an astonishingly tiny list, mostly (w)Intel boards, and quite obscure. A very small niche. Could very well be the case. If they have the INT13 hardwired in the BIOS to only try to boot from the 1rst (onboard controller) it won't look for an mbr anywhere else, even when told to boot from the add in card. This would be a fairly extreme oversight as the ability to boot from external add in cards was added a long long time ago. I've been doing such things successfully for years. This would be really crappy BIOS design on Gigabyte's part. Hell if I had another motherboard to run the experiment on and prove the hypothesis I'd be tempted to return the motherboard! :-) I have very little patience when there's a 15 day return policy. %-O Roger that! -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
ThinkDifferently wrote: Michael Powell-6 wrote: In your motherboard BIOS is there any entry that controls which controller boots first? If so set it to boot from the add-in card first instead of the onboard controller. In my BIOS there is the following... Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter] 1. SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C 2. Bootable Add-in Cards So what happens when you choose 2. Bootable Add-in Cards, save the setting and reboot with [Hard Disk] as First Boot Device? First Boot Device [CDROM] Second Boot Device [Hard Disk] Third Boot Device [USB-FDD] For grins, I tried making Hard Disk the first boot device and disabling the others. I also tried moving the card to another PCI slot. Finally, I tried shutting off any unnecessary devices on the mobo to include the unused serial parallel headers, usb, firewire, etc. Nothing changed. On reset... 1) The RocketRAID card beeps. 2) The motherboard BIOS screen is displayed. 3) The RocketRAID BIOS screen is displayed. 4) It shows all devices that are enabled and their interrupt settings. 5) It tries to boot from the Hard Disk, which is set to SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C. 6) It resets and the above repeats. In the table of devices that I mention in #4, above, see the attached image. It shows up as RAID Cntrlr. In this screenshot, just about everything else is turned off. http://www.nabble.com/file/p21489832/P1158072.jpg Michael Powell-6 wrote: Also ensure that in the Highpoint card BIOS INT 13 is on, should be this way by default. Yes, that is enabled. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
Michael Powell-6 wrote: ThinkDifferently wrote: In my BIOS there is the following... Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter] 1. SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C 2. Bootable Add-in Cards So what happens when you choose 2. Bootable Add-in Cards, save the setting and reboot with [Hard Disk] as First Boot Device? No change. :-( -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-needed-w--HighPoint-RocketRAID-3120-on-FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE-tp21479839p21501771.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
Another user wrote: Try to reload a boot manager with the new boot order. It may be the bios is renumbering the drives with the boot order. I have several plug in cards and have had to to this. Boot manager is on ad0 but boot order looks to ad6 first. You could use another manager like GAG, my fav. You may need to force file system mount and edit the fstab after moving everything around. (Another user sent the above to me in e-mail, but I had trouble replying to him, and I didn't see it on Nabble.) OK, this is interesting, but I admit I don't know much about boot managers. Can you please elaborate a little more on this? Is this something I can do from the FixIt shell? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-needed-w--HighPoint-RocketRAID-3120-on-FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE-tp21479839p21502779.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
Jeremy Gagliardi wrote: I'm having trouble with HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE. I have 2 disks on it in a mirror configuration. Everything seems to go swimmingly through the FreeBSD installation, up until the final reboot... 1) Boot from Disc 1. 2) At the Welcome to FreeBSD screen, choose option 6 ok load hptiop ok boot 3) It recognizes my mirror as device da0 and I proceed with the installation. 4) I install all distros, except X.org Ports. 5) At the tail end, before rebooting, I enter a shell and vi /boot/loader.conf. I add the line: hptiop_load=YES 6) REBOOT. The following happens... a) RocketRAID card beeps b) I see the BIOS splash screen c) I see RocketRAID splash screen d) It resets and repeats everything above. I never even get a boot loader menu to try troubleshooting. What did I miss? Why can't this thing boot? Unfortunately, HighPoint's User Manual was last updated in 2007, when FreeBSD 6.1 was the latest. Since then, the hptiop driver was added to 7.x, and that's what I'm trying to use. To be clear, the problem isn't that I can get FreeBSD to mount and recognize it, I can. The problem is being able to boot from it. [snip] In your motherboard BIOS is there any entry that controls which controller boots first? If so set it to boot from the add-in card first instead of the onboard controller. Also ensure that in the Highpoint card BIOS INT 13 is on, should be this way by default. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help needed w/ HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE
Michael Powell-6 wrote: In your motherboard BIOS is there any entry that controls which controller boots first? If so set it to boot from the add-in card first instead of the onboard controller. In my BIOS there is the following... Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter] 1. SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C 2. Bootable Add-in Cards First Boot Device [CDROM] Second Boot Device [Hard Disk] Third Boot Device [USB-FDD] For grins, I tried making Hard Disk the first boot device and disabling the others. I also tried moving the card to another PCI slot. Finally, I tried shutting off any unnecessary devices on the mobo to include the unused serial parallel headers, usb, firewire, etc. Nothing changed. On reset... 1) The RocketRAID card beeps. 2) The motherboard BIOS screen is displayed. 3) The RocketRAID BIOS screen is displayed. 4) It shows all devices that are enabled and their interrupt settings. 5) It tries to boot from the Hard Disk, which is set to SCSI-0:: RocketRAID 3120 SATA C. 6) It resets and the above repeats. In the table of devices that I mention in #4, above, see the attached image. It shows up as RAID Cntrlr. In this screenshot, just about everything else is turned off. http://www.nabble.com/file/p21489832/P1158072.jpg Michael Powell-6 wrote: Also ensure that in the Highpoint card BIOS INT 13 is on, should be this way by default. Yes, that is enabled. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-needed-w--HighPoint-RocketRAID-3120-on-FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE-tp21479839p21489832.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org