Re: How do I get into GUI?

2004-01-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hi, my name is Claude, and I'm new to FreeBSD. I've installed it on a hard 
 drive by itself, and I get it to boot. The install seemed to have completed 
 without a glitch.
 
 My problem is that I expected the booting process to finish in the graphical 
 user interface. Instead, it stops at a CLI prompt. Maybe I did something 
 wrong. I tried re-configuring by booting off the CD, and I selected KDE as 
 my user interface. But something in the configuration goes wrong, and it 
 tells me to select a simpler interface. I've tried a couple of the others, 
 with the same result.

No, generally X is not set up to start automatically on boot.
Check out startx(1) and all its related configuration files and 
possibilities of what it will start up.   Then, after you have it 
set up, when you boot your machine, then log in with your working
account (preferably not root) and type 'startx' and voila you have it.

FreeBSD makes fewer assumptions about what you want.   That means
you have to do a little more to get things set up the way you
want, but it also means you aren't stuck with what someone else
thinks you ought to want.   Most of us are really down on someone
in the northwest doing our thinking and decision making for us 
which is _one_ of the big things that brings us to FreeBSD.

jerry

 I did not modify anything in the kernel. Is that the problem? My computer 
 has a Soho P4X400 Dragon Lite MB, an Intel Celeron 2.2 GHz processor, 256 MB 
 of DDR400 memory, an Nvidia GeForce2 video card, and otherwise runs Win2000 
 and WinXP Pro flawlessly.
 
 I've read all sorts of help files, but am still pretty lost. Can you advise 
 me as to how to proceed from here? Is there a forum I can post this to?
 
 Thank you very much!
 
 Claude
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Re: How do I get into GUI?

2004-01-23 Thread HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER
Hi Claude,

 FreBSD takes a minimalistic approach to installing applications in the 
default install.  By default, XWindows is not installed.  Read the 
handbook section on XWindows:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html

It describes XWindows installation, config and usage as well as working 
with some window managers and desktops.  You can also install X through 
/stand/sysinstall - Configure - Packages.

In closing, on a personal note, I might suggest that you try a lighter 
windows manager (Blackbox, WindowMaker) over a full-blown desktop 
manager (KDE, Gnome) as they are much quicker.  They require a little 
more leg work up front as you will have to install your X apps on your 
own.  Again, this is sticking with the minimalistic approach of only 
installing what you need.

HTH,

Christopher Hollow

Claude Martin wrote:

Hi, my name is Claude, and I'm new to FreeBSD. I've installed it on a 
hard drive by itself, and I get it to boot. The install seemed to have 
completed without a glitch.

My problem is that I expected the booting process to finish in the 
graphical user interface. Instead, it stops at a CLI prompt. Maybe I 
did something wrong. I tried re-configuring by booting off the CD, and 
I selected KDE as my user interface. But something in the 
configuration goes wrong, and it tells me to select a simpler 
interface. I've tried a couple of the others, with the same result.

I did not modify anything in the kernel. Is that the problem? My 
computer has a Soho P4X400 Dragon Lite MB, an Intel Celeron 2.2 GHz 
processor, 256 MB of DDR400 memory, an Nvidia GeForce2 video card, and 
otherwise runs Win2000 and WinXP Pro flawlessly.

I've read all sorts of help files, but am still pretty lost. Can you 
advise me as to how to proceed from here? Is there a forum I can post 
this to?

Thank you very much!

Claude

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Re: How do I get into GUI?

2004-01-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:21:13 +
Claude Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, my name is Claude, and I'm new to FreeBSD. I've installed it on a hard 
 drive by itself, and I get it to boot. The install seemed to have completed 
 without a glitch.

:)

 My problem is that I expected the booting process to finish in the graphical 
 user interface. Instead, it stops at a CLI prompt. 

Yup, that's the way it work around here ;)
do as user:
$ echo 'exec startkde'  ~/.xinirc
$ startx

 Maybe I did something wrong.
 I tried re-configuring by booting off the CD, and I selected KDE as 
 my user interface. But something in the configuration goes wrong, and it 
 tells me to select a simpler interface. I've tried a couple of the others, 
 with the same result.

What failed, X configuration or adding KDE ? Give us the errors, we
cannot guess them.

 I did not modify anything in the kernel. Is that the problem? My computer 
 has a Soho P4X400 Dragon Lite MB, an Intel Celeron 2.2 GHz processor, 256 MB 
 of DDR400 memory, an Nvidia GeForce2 video card, and otherwise runs Win2000 
 and WinXP Pro flawlessly.

It should work.
 

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Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user
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Re: How do I get into GUI?

2004-01-23 Thread Peter Risdon
Claude Martin wrote:

My problem is that I expected the booting process to finish in the 
graphical user interface. Instead, it stops at a CLI prompt. Maybe I 
did something wrong.
No, although you were probably asked during the install whether you 
wanted to configure X Windows. Not everyone wants a GUI for every 
machine. I don't install X Windows on mail or web servers, for example, 
except (rarely) as a dependency of some other program.

Assuming you're completely new to all this, there are two stages to 
running a GUI. The first is to get a running X server. The second is to 
select your preferred window manager (such as KDE or, as another poster 
suggested, Windowmaker). Nothing can happen without a properly 
configured X server. The choice of window manager is arbitrary and you 
can switch between them if you want.

The easiest way to get a running X server is, as root, to type:

/stand/sysinstall

Then go

Configure--Mouse

and get your mouse working. Having configured the mouse, you should be 
prompted to go to the next stage and configure the XFree86 system - aka 
your X server. If not, go back to the previous menu and select XFree86, 
then select option 2, xf86cfg, a graphical setup tool which might just 
get your graphics card right unaided. If not...

an Nvidia GeForce2 video card, 
...you need to tell it which graphics card you have and, possibly, which 
chipset it uses. If you're having problems and need to drop into a 
lower-level configuration tool, you'll need to know suitable vertical 
and horizontal sync ranges for your monitor.

In addition to the information and links given to you here by other 
posters, you might find it helpful to look at:

http://www.xfree86.org

where you'll find detailed information about how to configure X for 
different graphics cards.

PWR.

PWR.

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