Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
  
 Hey great advice thanks. I was wondering about that Boot cd burn. Now I guess I have 
 to study some since it just Halts. I read some other guy had the same thing happen 
 lol. I know I was reading that you need to reformat and partition a space for 
 FreeBSD. I don't think this does all the reformatting itself. I didn't read that it 
 did. I know most people like me start asking questions before they have read, But I 
 was reading. That ASCII vs Binary I knew nothing about before. Someone did tell 
 methe other day in an email through this. I can't believe the support you all give. 
 This intrigues me. I want to accomplish this soon. Get in the game. I have three 
 pc's since I can build them so I will dedicate at least one to this op. I hope all 
 someday maybe since I have been having programs crash lately on windows 2000. I 
 can't understand it. Fresh reformats too. Not sure if Microsofts upgrades are even 
 causing conflictions.
  
 Anyway if you have one quick answer about that HALT deal where pressing ENTER 
 doesn't start loading anything. In fact I couldn't select anything from that menu. I 
 wonder if that will ever function for me? I hope. I will start reading too step by 
 step also.

First of all, please send your messages to the list and not just to
an individual.   It allows more people - who probably know more than me - 
to see, and maybe respond to, your questions.  I may not be around for a 
while to see the question of may not know enough about, or be interested 
in continuing with, the thread.  Plus it only gets added the archive if 
it is posted to the list.  All messages to the list are archived and 
become part of the knowledge base for the system.

Secondly, please break your lines at around 70 characters length.
It makes it much easier to read and respond, especially for those
who are using a text based Email reader.  You can either set your
Email client to do this or just hit a RETURN/ENTER at about that
length for each line - just like with the oldfashioned typewriters.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the 'Halt'
You do not give any information about what is happening.
What are you doing when it 'halts'?  Are you attempting to burn 
or are you booting or have you already installed and are rebooting???

jerry

  
 Thanks a lot,
  
 Sincerely,
 Jerry Schromm
 Corning, CA
  
  
 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback. Anyway I 
  just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am excited to 
  intrigue myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I will learn 
  something about code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of old school feeling 
  to it, at the same time cutting edge technology. I am a believer in it's viability 
  over Microsofts Windows. They love to hide information from us not inform us.
  
  The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot disk 
  successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and it failed to 
  burn. Some type of burn error following the track or something. Then I tried that 
  other download that isn't the ISO but the regular files. That wouldn't do anything 
  either. It burned but I can't instal it. That doesn't boot. Or install in anyway. 
  
  I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to order the 
  retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was so excited about 
  this. I hope you can enlighten me some.
 
 Yup it is free. No scam.
 
 Probably you did something wrong. I am not familiar with all the
 various CD burner software packages, but I have notice two problems
 show up the most often.
 
 The first is downloading the ISO image in ASCI mode. This produces
 a corrupt image that won't work. Make sure you specify binary mode
 when you do the ftp. With command line FTPs, it is just a matter
 of typing binary when you are in the ftp session.
 
 The other most popular problem is trying to create a bootable ISO from 
 the image. It is already a bootable ISO image and needs to be burned
 straight to the CD without the utility trying to make an ISO or add any
 boot blocks or whatever with it. Just burn the straight data.
 
 You should also tell it to fixate.
 
 This stuff really does work once you get the details right.
 
 Good luck,
 
 jerry
 
  
  Thanks a lot,
  Jerry Schromm
  Corning, California
  
 
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 DIVHey great advice thanks. I was wondering about that Boot cd burn. Now I guess I 
 have to study some since it just Halts. I read some other guy had the same thing 
 happen lol. I know I was reading that you need to reformat and partition a space for 
 FreeBSD. I don't think this does all the reformatting itself. I didn't read that it 
 did. I know most people like me start 

Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-13 Thread Kjell Midtseter
On 12 Jul 2004 at 20:25, Bill Moran wrote:

 Jerry Schromm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi Bill thanks for writing.
  bootonly.iso  ---I burned this one and it seems to be working. I booted up with it
  but the box with the options only stay for a few seconds. I selected Enter for 
  default
  but didn't do anything. Maybe it's something to do with choosing TRACK AT ONCE,
  or DISC AT ONCE, and there is DISC AT ONCE/96(I just noticed on NERO they have
  a mode for Boot Discs. I didn't use it for this iso burn. Maybe I should use that 
  one)
   
  disc1.iso -I tried to burn this one and it errored. I couldn't burn it on Nero.
I am using NERO6 to burn the ISOs When it starts, select new compilation, then drag 
your ISO to the 'to be burned' column and select 'Recorder-Burn Image..' Then accept 
all defaults.
This is from the Mandrake docs:
---
Open Nero.
Close the wizard if it is started automatically.
Go to File
then to Burn Image
In the next dialog, click on Image Files (*.nrg) and select 
All files
(*.*). 
Choose the .iso file and accept.
In the following dialog make sure:
- Type of Image is: Data Mode 1
- Block size: 2048
- Image header: 0
- Image trailer: 0
- All the checkboxes are unactive.
Click OK. 
In the next dialog check that the write and finalize option 
are active.
Click on Write.
-
It is for an earlier version of NERO, but you will see the same information. Most of 
the 
options have been 'grayed' in NERO6, so you can not change them.
GL and keep at it...
Kjell

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Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
  
  
 Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback. Anyway I 
 just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am excited to intrigue 
 myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I will learn something about 
 code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of old school feeling to it, at the same 
 time cutting edge technology. I am a believer in it's viability over Microsofts 
 Windows. They love to hide information from us not inform us.
  
 The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot disk 
 successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and it failed to 
 burn. Some type of burn error following the track or something. Then I tried that 
 other download that isn't the ISO but the regular files. That wouldn't do anything 
 either. It burned but I can't instal it. That doesn't boot. Or install in anyway. 
  
 I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to order the 
 retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was so excited about 
 this. I hope you can enlighten me some.

Yup it is free.No scam.

Probably you did something wrong.  I am not familiar with all the
various CD burner software packages, but I have notice two problems
show up the most often.

The first is downloading the ISO image in ASCI mode.  This produces
a corrupt image that won't work.   Make sure you specify binary mode
when you do the ftp.   With command line FTPs, it is just a matter
of typing binary when you are in the ftp session.

The other most popular problem is trying to create a bootable ISO from 
the image.   It is already a bootable ISO image and needs to be burned
straight to the CD without the utility trying to make an ISO or add any
boot blocks or whatever with it.   Just burn the straight data.

You should also tell it to fixate.

This stuff really does work once you get the details right.

Good luck,

jerry

  
 Thanks a lot,
 Jerry Schromm
 Corning, California
  
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Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-13 Thread Joshua Lewis
 Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback.
 Anyway I just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am
 excited to intrigue myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I
 will learn something about code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of
 old school feeling to it, at the same time cutting edge technology. I am a
 believer in it's viability over Microsofts Windows. They love to hide
 information from us not inform us.

Welcome Jerremy to the FreeBSD community. I am taking it on myself as a
fellow new user to say It is a pleasure to meet you and you are in for one
exciting ride. FreeBSD is the greatest Operating System I have ever
experienced (Holly cow I sound like a salesmen). You obviously have the
curiosity to get yourself started.  If you also have the ability to search
for answers in the very abundant FreeBSD resources on the net you will
have a great time.


 The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot
 disk successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and
 it failed to burn. Some type of burn error following the track or
 something. Then I tried that other download that isn't the ISO but the
 regular files. That wouldn't do anything either. It burned but I can't
 instal it. That doesn't boot. Or install in anyway.


I had a problem with 5.2.1 as well about two months ago (I think) I was
using Nero and had a problem burning the disk. So I downloaded the ISO
from another server and then was able to burn fine (Oh and I happened to
switched media as well). Then I started having a problem booting to the
Burned CD. I took the liberty of pulling an old 48X CD drive (I was trying
to use my LiteOn CDRW drive) and was able to boot to the CD. However, I
then experienced some other issues that I think was due to the new ACPI
features in 5X and the fact that my system does not support PS2 or other
legacy devices so I was having a problem disabling the ACPI functionality.
I then made the incredibly wise choice to switch to the 4.X branch and
about 5 days later 4.10 came out. I downloaded 4.10 and installed and have
been having a great time ever since.

Since you are new I would recomend not to follow 5.X until it is in a
-STABLE branch (Perhaps it is and I am just misinformed someone correct me
if I am wrong). Unless you need some of the specific new features then 4.X
is the way to go. That is my humble opinion. I think SMP was added or
updated, and ELF either was added (I read something yesterday that Says
4.X has ELF support so maybe someone could clarify)

The 5.X branch may give you some headaches for a newcomer. Trust me 4.10
is just as cool and incredibly stable. If you are the kind of guy (like I
was until about 30 days ago) who thinks the cutting edge is the better way
to go. Then you will have a great time. The FreeBSD community is always
added greater and greater functionality at the cost of stability at times.
4.10 was release as I said like a month ago or something. It is still very
new.


 I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to
 order the retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was
 so excited about this. I hope you can enlighten me some.

FreeBSD is totally free. Donations are always welcome and I am sure they
are graciously excepted. Personally I recommend that you drop the 30 bucks
and get yourself a FreeBSD book like FreeBSD unleashed. Although you
really do not need it because there is an abundance of information out
there for FreeBSD. The Handbook is the best place to start and it totally
free. It explains so much. I would like to see some more realistic
examples in the handbook but hey, I guess if I want it I ought to update
it and submit it to a committer.

I found www.n0dez.com/freebsd and www.freebsdportal.com were a great place
to find lots of links to FreeBSD sites. FreeBSD is a fabulous OS however
there is no point to have it if you do not do something with it. Once I
had it installed I kind of looked at my screen like what next. So the
links I went to from there led me to the resources I needed to get my
Postfix mail server, Bind 9 DNS server, MySql server, and PHP up and
running. Now I need to look for some info on Mono (Unix .NET equivalent).

Good luck I hope I helped answer any of your questions. I say try
downloading from another FTP server and possibly if you have one another
CD drive.



Joshua Lewis

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Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-12 Thread Mike Jeays
Jerry Schromm wrote:

Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback. Anyway I 
just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am excited to intrigue 
myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I will learn something about code 
at the same time. I feel it had a kind of old school feeling to it, at the same time 
cutting edge technology. I am a believer in it's viability over Microsofts Windows. 
They love to hide information from us not inform us.
The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot disk successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and it failed to burn. Some type of burn error following the track or something. Then I tried that other download that isn't the ISO but the regular files. That wouldn't do anything either. It burned but I can't instal it. That doesn't boot. Or install in anyway. 

I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to order the 
retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was so excited about this. 
I hope you can enlighten me some.
Thanks a lot,
Jerry Schromm
Corning, California





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Yes, it really is free!  Something must have gone wrong when you
downloaded the ISO image - I and many others have been able to
burn a bootable CD, using either FreeBSD, Linux or one of the
proprietary packages operating under Windows.  There is usually
an option for creating a CD from a CD image; this is the one to
use.
If you buy the CD set, you get 4 CDs with a large collection of
packages, and have the convenience of having them there.  But
you can get everything at no charge from www.freebsd.org if
you prefer.
FreeBSD is a great OS - I have been using it as my home desktop
since 1997.
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Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-12 Thread Bill Moran
For future reference, this page has important information on how to ask
questions:
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

Jerry Schromm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback.
 Anyway I just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am
 excited to intrigue myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I
 will learn something about code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of
 old school feeling to it, at the same time cutting edge technology. I am a
 believer in it's viability over Microsofts Windows. They love to hide
 information from us not inform us.
  
 The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot
 disk successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and
 it failed to burn. Some type of burn error following the track or something.

This is almost definatly a problem with your burning software.  Even a
corrupted ISO will burn successfully, although you won't be able to use
the CD.

 Then I tried that other download that isn't the ISO but the regular files.
 That wouldn't do anything either. It burned but I can't instal it. That
 doesn't boot. Or install in anyway. 

You need to provide more information on exactly what you did and the exact
result (including cut/paste any error messages) ... with the information
you've provided, we're left trying to guess what you did wrong, and I've
got so many potential guesses that I'm not going to list them all.

 I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to
 order the retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was so
 excited about this. I hope you can enlighten me some.

No, it's really free.  I've been downloading both ISOs and floppy images and
installing from them for 6 years now.

Provide some details on what you did and what happened, and I'm sure we'll
be able to help.

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Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-12 Thread cpghost
Bill Moran wrote:
Jerry Schromm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback.
Anyway I just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am
excited to intrigue myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I
will learn something about code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of
old school feeling to it, at the same time cutting edge technology. I am a
believer in it's viability over Microsofts Windows. They love to hide
information from us not inform us.
The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot
disk successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and
it failed to burn. Some type of burn error following the track or something.
   

This is almost definatly a problem with your burning software.  Even a
corrupted ISO will burn successfully, although you won't be able to use
the CD.
 

Are you sure? If you download the ISO in ASCII mode (therefore corrupting
it), it will be bigger than the already full binary image. Some combination
of burning software and media could result in a bad burn.
-cpghost.
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Re: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-12 Thread Bill Moran
Please keep the mailing list CCed on any replies.

Jerry Schromm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 hi Bill thanks for writing.
  
 You said both ISO's? Ok I downloaded 4 ISO's from that new AMD64 version folder.
 I guess you are just dealing with Disc1 and Disc2 and that Boot Disc. Not the 
 others??
 Any clues on this will be helpful. I want to get this for free initially. Maybe 
 someday buy one who knows. But I would like to accomplish an install on this. Burn 
 this op to disc.
 Maybe I should try another burner. Do you use something else? Let me know as much as 
 you can in a nutshell. Thanks a lot!!
  
 bootonly.iso  ---I burned this one and it seems to be working. I booted up with it
 but the box with the options only stay for a few seconds. I selected Enter for 
 default
 but didn't do anything. Maybe it's something to do with choosing TRACK AT ONCE,
 or DISC AT ONCE, and there is DISC AT ONCE/96(I just noticed on NERO they have
 a mode for Boot Discs. I didn't use it for this iso burn. Maybe I should use that 
 one)
  
 disc1.iso -I tried to burn this one and it errored. I couldn't burn it on Nero.
 disc2.iso   Haven't tried to burn this one yet.
  
 mininst.iso  --- This one looks like it says Mini instal??
  
 checksum.md5   NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:For future reference, this page has important 
 information on how to ask
 questions:
 http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
 
 Jerry Schromm wrote:
  
  Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback.
  Anyway I just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am
  excited to intrigue myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I
  will learn something about code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of
  old school feeling to it, at the same time cutting edge technology. I am a
  believer in it's viability over Microsofts Windows. They love to hide
  information from us not inform us.
  
  The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot
  disk successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and
  it failed to burn. Some type of burn error following the track or something.
 
 This is almost definatly a problem with your burning software. Even a
 corrupted ISO will burn successfully, although you won't be able to use
 the CD.
 
  Then I tried that other download that isn't the ISO but the regular files.
  That wouldn't do anything either. It burned but I can't instal it. That
  doesn't boot. Or install in anyway. 
 
 You need to provide more information on exactly what you did and the exact
 result (including cut/paste any error messages) ... with the information
 you've provided, we're left trying to guess what you did wrong, and I've
 got so many potential guesses that I'm not going to list them all.
 
  I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to
  order the retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was so
  excited about this. I hope you can enlighten me some.
 
 No, it's really free. I've been downloading both ISOs and floppy images and
 installing from them for 6 years now.
 
 Provide some details on what you did and what happened, and I'm sure we'll
 be able to help.
 
 -- 
 Bill Moran
 Potential Technologies
 http://www.potentialtech.com
 
 


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RE: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn

2004-07-12 Thread James A. Coulter
Your cd burner software should have an option to create a cd from an image.
This is different than just copying files to a bland cd-rom.  Look in the
'File' drop-down menu.

Don't feel bad - I made the same mistake and posted the same question on
this board about two years ago.

P.S. Google is your best friend when researching FreeBSD issues.

HTH

Jim C.

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 Subject: I downloaded everything to no avail! ISO's fail to burn
 
 Hi everyone, I am not sure how this works or if I will ever get feedback.
 Anyway I just discovered FreeBSD yesterday. I read all about it and I am
 excited to intrigue myself with this new pc adventure. Sounds great and I
 will learn something about code at the same time. I feel it had a kind of
 old school feeling to it, at the same time cutting edge technology. I am a
 believer in it's viability over Microsofts Windows. They love to hide
 information from us not inform us.
 
 The reason I am writing. I downloaded the 5.2.1 IS0's. I burned the boot
 disk successfully it seems. But I tried to burn the first big ISO file and
 it failed to burn. Some type of burn error following the track or
 something. Then I tried that other download that isn't the ISO but the
 regular files. That wouldn't do anything either. It burned but I can't
 instal it. That doesn't boot. Or install in anyway.
 
 I am wondering if FreeBSD is actually free or is this a way to get us to
 order the retail box lol. I don't want to feel that way. Yestersay I was
 so excited about this. I hope you can enlighten me some.
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Jerry Schromm
 Corning, California
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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