Re: Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-18 Thread Jonathan Arnold

Eric wrote:
i find portmaster  all. give it a whirl. No dependencies, its actively 
maintained, etc.


Oh, yeah, I'd forgotten about that one.  So there are three competing
technologies - portupgrade, portmaster, and portmanage. And I'm not
even sure what any of them offer over the simple 'make install clean'
method. Doesn't the make method also take care of dependencies? All of
them have a raft of options, most of which make me dizzy:-)  I've been
using portmanage, but only because the syntax is real easy.

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Re: Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-18 Thread Robert Huff

Jonathan Arnold writes:

  So there are three competing technologies - portupgrade,
  portmaster, and portmanage. And I'm not even sure what any of
  them offer over the simple 'make install clean' method.

Simple make/make install will take care of upstream
dependencies; portupgrade (and probably the others) will also take
care of downstream ports.
This is particaularly useful in cases like the recent bump of
GNOME components.


Robert Huff
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Re: Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-17 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 08:47:27 (AM) Jonathan Arnold wrote:

 I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for best port
 tool?  Usually, I just cd /usr/ports// and do a 'make install clean',
 but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to
 prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing  matching
 confuse things?  portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager.
 And where does the pkgdb command fit in?

You could always do a 'man pkgdb' to get information regarding that
utility. As far as 'portmanager' vs portupgrade' go, I think that it
really boils down to your own preference. I usually prefer
'portmanager'; however, I still use 'portupgrade' on occasion. There is
no know problem that I am aware of that arises from using one and then
the other on you system. If you really want to rebuild your system
applications I feel that 'portmanager -f -u' probably does a more
through job than 'portupgrade'; but again that is just my opinion.


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Re: Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-17 Thread Eric

Gerard Seibert wrote:

On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 08:47:27 (AM) Jonathan Arnold wrote:


I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for best port
tool?  Usually, I just cd /usr/ports// and do a 'make install clean',
but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to
prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing  matching
confuse things?  portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager.
And where does the pkgdb command fit in?


You could always do a 'man pkgdb' to get information regarding that
utility. As far as 'portmanager' vs portupgrade' go, I think that it
really boils down to your own preference. I usually prefer
'portmanager'; however, I still use 'portupgrade' on occasion. There is
no know problem that I am aware of that arises from using one and then
the other on you system. If you really want to rebuild your system
applications I feel that 'portmanager -f -u' probably does a more
through job than 'portupgrade'; but again that is just my opinion.




i find portmaster  all. give it a whirl. No dependencies, its actively 
maintained, etc.

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