Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:00:45PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:23:25PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > > instant-workstation is not included on cd#1. As stated, there isn't > > > enough space for everything. > > > > Instant-workstation itself is tiny. It consists of dependencies and a > > few small configuration files. It's mainly a matter of coordination > > with release engineering. > > The point is that including instant-workstation on the CD requires > that the CD also include everything it depends on, which are not tiny > and do not fit. It depends on acroread5, bash2, cdrtools, unix2dos, emacs20, fetchmail, gs, grip, gimp1, gv, gnupg, kde3, mkisofs, smbfs, mutt, mozilla, posfix, xtset, xmms, xv. The most ports are availble on CD as package including the largest port, kde3. The number of packages that are availble could be reason enove to include a instant-workstation package on the CD. This would save time looking up all the availeble packages and saves compilation time for someone who later decides to install the remaining ports. Availble as package on the CD rom are: acroread5, bash2, cdrtools, emacs20, fetchmail, gv, kde3, mkisofs, mutt, mozilla, posfix, xv Not available: unix2dos, grip, gnupg, smbfs, xtset, xmms Unkown to me: gs -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:23:25PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > instant-workstation is not included on cd#1. As stated, there isn't > > enough space for everything. > > Instant-workstation itself is tiny. It consists of dependencies and a > few small configuration files. It's mainly a matter of coordination > with release engineering. The point is that including instant-workstation on the CD requires that the CD also include everything it depends on, which are not tiny and do not fit. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Sunday, 9 November 2003 at 17:17:22 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:12:56AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:07:21PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > >> I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find >> all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. >> i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them >> This gouies for instant-workstation > > Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to > be released. See > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html > > Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? > > You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's > simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be on the CDrom. >>> >>> Not that I could see.. >> >> I didn't very this manualy so I could be wrong. It would be a bit >> unlogicaly to not include packages that are refered to as bing a >> instant workstation, since a lot of ppl would get the idee to install >> it. > > instant-workstation is not included on cd#1. As stated, there isn't > enough space for everything. Instant-workstation itself is tiny. It consists of dependencies and a few small configuration files. It's mainly a matter of coordination with release engineering. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Sunday, 9 November 2003 at 17:35:43 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:59:52AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Monday, 10 November 2003 at 9:56:06 +1030, Andrew wrote: >>> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from your original posting? 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking? >>> >>> I have been following the the examples in the book >>> The Complete FreeBSD >>> Greg Lehey >>> there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset, >>> then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off >>> which i can not find either. >>> I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I can not >>> copy over file >>> /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc >> >> I suppose you mean /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc. That's part of the >> instant-workstation port. See my previous reply. > > Looking at the contents of the port, IYTM /usr/local/share/dot.bashrc. Yes, indeed, as it should be. This is a bug in the book. Thanks for catching this one. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:59:52AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 10 November 2003 at 9:56:06 +1030, Andrew wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > >> > >>> Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 > >> > >> > >> 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from > >> your original posting? > >> > >> 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking? > > > > I have been following the the examples in the book > > The Complete FreeBSD > > Greg Lehey > > there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset, > > then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off > > which i can not find either. > > I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I can not > > copy over file > > /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc > > I suppose you mean /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc. That's part of the > instant-workstation port. See my previous reply. Looking at the contents of the port, IYTM /usr/local/share/dot.bashrc. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Monday, 10 November 2003 at 9:56:06 +1030, Andrew wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote: >> >>> Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 >> >> >> 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from >> your original posting? >> >> 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking? > > I have been following the the examples in the book > The Complete FreeBSD > Greg Lehey > there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset, > then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off > which i can not find either. > I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I can not > copy over file > /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc I suppose you mean /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc. That's part of the instant-workstation port. See my previous reply. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Monday, 10 November 2003 at 1:17:20 +1030, Andrew wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find > all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. > i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them > This gouies for instant-workstation > > I have been following throught book "Greg Lehey The Complete FreeBSD" > can sombody help clear this up for me Well, you could start at the top of page 94: It's possible that the CD set you get will not include instant-workstation. That's not such a problem: you just install the individual ports from this list. You can also do this if you don't like the list of ports. It's difficult to coordinate the production of a book (every year or two, by one publisher) with the distributions (every 4 months, by a different group of people). That's your problem here. To install instant-workstation directly, connect to the Net and enter: # cd /usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation # make install Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:12:56AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:07:21PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find > > > > > all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. > > > > > i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them > > > > > This gouies for instant-workstation > > > > > > > > Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to > > > > be released. See > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html > > > > > > > > Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? > > > > > > > > You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's > > > > simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. > > > > > > Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a > > > workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be > > > on the CDrom. > > > > Not that I could see.. > > I didn't very this manualy so I could be wrong. It would be a bit > unlogicaly to not include packages that are refered to as bing a > instant workstation, since a lot of ppl would get the idee to install > it. instant-workstation is not included on cd#1. As stated, there isn't enough space for everything. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:07:21PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > > > > > > > I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find > > > > all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. > > > > i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them > > > > This gouies for instant-workstation > > > > > > Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to > > > be released. See > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html > > > > > > Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? > > > > > > You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's > > > simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. > > > > Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a > > workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be > > on the CDrom. > > Not that I could see.. I didn't very this manualy so I could be wrong. It would be a bit unlogicaly to not include packages that are refered to as bing a instant workstation, since a lot of ppl would get the idee to install it. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:49:59AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > > > > > I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find > > > all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. > > > i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them > > > This gouies for instant-workstation > > > > Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to > > be released. See > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html > > > > Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? > > > > You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's > > simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. > > Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a > workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be > on the CDrom. Not that I could see.. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:32:24PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > > > I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find > > all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. > > i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them > > This gouies for instant-workstation > > Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to > be released. See > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html > > Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? > > You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's > simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. Instant-workstation is a wraparound for a couple of high used ports on a workstation. All the packages of all the ports its points to should be on the CDrom. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:56:06AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > > > >>Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 > > > > > >1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from > >your original posting? > > > >2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking? > > > >Kris > > > > I have been following the the examples in the book > The Complete FreeBSD > Greg Lehey > there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset, > then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off > which i can not find either. OK, but you didn't answer the second part of my question. Where are you looking for these packages? > I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I can not > copy over file > /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc This file is not part of FreeBSD, and packages do not install into this directory..are you sure that is the correct path? Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote: Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from your original posting? 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking? Kris I have been following the the examples in the book The Complete FreeBSD Greg Lehey there is no cdrecord, galeon, gpg, postfix, xtset, then i carry on reading it said if you installed instant-workstation off which i can not find either. I have tryed the install with out these packages but then I can not copy over file /usr/share/ske1/dot.bashrc ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:48:19AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 1) Please don't top-post..see how this message has lost context from your original posting? 2) Which packages can't you find, and where precisely are you looking? Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
Sorry your correct it is version 5.1 Matthew Seaman wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them This gouies for instant-workstation Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to be released. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. Your best bet is to install the cvsup-without-gui package: # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui then use cvsup to pull down the latest version of the ports tree and install via ports. This will have been updated since 5.1 was released, in order to take account of updates to the dependent packages. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Then: # cd /usr/ports/misc/instant-server # make install Cheers, Matthew ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Instant-workstation is missing
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:17:20AM +1030, Andrew wrote: > I have been trying to get FreeBSD 5.2 installed but i am unable to find > all the packages that are required on the official cd-rom set i brought. > i have tryed installing by FTP and i am still unable to find them > This gouies for instant-workstation Hmmm... It seems you've gone astray in time. FreeBSD 5.2 has yet to be released. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/schedule.html Perhaps you mean 5.1 ? You won't find all possible packages on the CD Rom set as there's simply far too much stuff to fit onto the CDs. Your best bet is to install the cvsup-without-gui package: # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui then use cvsup to pull down the latest version of the ports tree and install via ports. This will have been updated since 5.1 was released, in order to take account of updates to the dependent packages. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Then: # cd /usr/ports/misc/instant-server # make install Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature