Re: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 02:54, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Tuesday 14 November 2006 18:13, Scott Schappell wrote: The writing is on the wall and all that stuff. I've put this off long enough. What needs to be done to upgrade from 4.11 to 6.x? I have an extensive amount of ports installed and in googling and searching the list, it seems I need to make a jump to 5.2 then from there to 6. I'm about to do this, but I've opted for a clean install, as others have suggested - but with a twist. I've installed an additional drive the same size as the original (80GB) - I'm going to install on the new drive, transplant data as needed from the old drive, and when I'm happy with everything, use gmirror to turn both drives into a little RAID-1 plex. Do yourself a favor and create the mirror before you get started. To begin with you'll only add the new drive as a member, then once you've copied everything over you insert the old drive. It is possible to convert regular devices into gmirror members after they have data on them, but unless you're extremely careful there's a small risk of the gmirror metadata sector overlapping a data sector. I'm also trying to do it remotely, with ssh access to the distant box and one right next to it, and a null-modem cable between them to give me serial console access during the upgrade. If it works I'll detail the steps here, as I wasn't able to find a quick and easy guide to this process anywhere. I'd suggest playing around with gmirror locally first. In particular, make sure that whatever partitioning scheme you come up with using gmirror will boot. (I haven't had any problems with this, but it's a good anti-foot-shooting measuer) Also be very sure that the old drive is not smaller than the new drive. (If it is, then just shave some space off the device you're using to create the mirror on the new drive). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
That's the way I would go about it. Jay Gordon Unix Systems Administrator DataPipe Managed Hosting Services - What It Means To Be Sure - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.datapipe.com Tel: 201.792.1918 x2402 | Fax: 201-792-3090 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Schappell Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:14 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0 The writing is on the wall and all that stuff. I've put this off long enough. What needs to be done to upgrade from 4.11 to 6.x? I have an extensive amount of ports installed and in googling and searching the list, it seems I need to make a jump to 5.2 then from there to 6. My thinking is the best way to do this would be to cvsup, do the rebuilding of the world thing boot it to the 5 version then cvsup to 6. The server is continuously backed up so rolling back won't be a problem if I need to. Am I on the right track by doing source upgrades? If so, what intermediate jump(s) do I need to make to get from 4.11 to 6? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
Jay Gordon wrote: That's the way I would go about it. Jay Gordon Unix Systems Administrator DataPipe Managed Hosting Services - What It Means To Be Sure - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.datapipe.com Tel: 201.792.1918 x2402 | Fax: 201-792-3090 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Schappell Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:14 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0 The writing is on the wall and all that stuff. I've put this off long enough. What needs to be done to upgrade from 4.11 to 6.x? I have an extensive amount of ports installed and in googling and searching the list, it seems I need to make a jump to 5.2 then from there to 6. My thinking is the best way to do this would be to cvsup, do the rebuilding of the world thing boot it to the 5 version then cvsup to 6. The server is continuously backed up so rolling back won't be a problem if I need to. Am I on the right track by doing source upgrades? If so, what intermediate jump(s) do I need to make to get from 4.11 to 6? That's a major set of version jumps though, so you may want to consider a clean install of 6.x via binaries, then source upgrade to 6.2 in a couple of weeks using cvsup once it's made stable; besides, reinstalling would be trivial if you copy down your /etc files you need to keep, as well as your packages / ports db (/var/db/ports), and home directories. Besides, if you do a clean reinstall at least you might claim back some space that was being used by leftover cruft from packages, uninstalled packages, or 'ancient' :) OS features. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 02:31:26PM -0500, Jay Gordon wrote: That's the way I would go about it. Jay Gordon Unix Systems Administrator DataPipe Managed Hosting Services - What It Means To Be Sure - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.datapipe.com Tel: 201.792.1918 x2402 | Fax: 201-792-3090 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Schappell Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:14 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0 The writing is on the wall and all that stuff. I've put this off long enough. What needs to be done to upgrade from 4.11 to 6.x? I have an extensive amount of ports installed and in googling and searching the list, it seems I need to make a jump to 5.2 then from there to 6. My thinking is the best way to do this would be to cvsup, do the rebuilding of the world thing boot it to the 5 version then cvsup to 6. The server is continuously backed up so rolling back won't be a problem if I need to. Am I on the right track by doing source upgrades? If so, what intermediate jump(s) do I need to make to get from 4.11 to 6? Well, it might depend a lot on what sort of stuff you have accumulated by using those ports. If it is basically compatible with the ports versions that go along with 6.2 (same file formats, etc) and if you have your own data well separated from OS and ports working storage, then the whole process might be easier as a clean new install - even on a clean new (bigger - might as well now when it is easy) disk. Mainly, I think it will take less time to do the single new install than to do multiple upgrades and builds to bring things up to date. I believe there are also some file system improvements that you will miss if you do not rebuild the file systems at the 6.xxx level. If some of your third party stuff or ports make incompatible changes in formats of data that you want to keep, then you might have to make incremental steps to make sure it uses whatever conversions are put in the upgrade processes along the way. I don't know of any off hand, but I use only a limited set of ports so just may not run across them. You would need to make handy copies of config files which you may have to hand merge to get everything up and running - not so much for the main OS as possibly for some ports, but you might have to do that anyway - which ever way you do it. Once you get things up and running at 6.2 or whatever, then import the data you want to keep and you should be OK. A clean install is also a possibly good time to reorganize where things are kept and how they are organized if you have felt the need. I did a couple of clean install jumps from 4.xx to 6.1 and really had no problem a while back. Have fun, jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
Jerry McAllister writes: I believe there are also some file system improvements that you will miss if you do not rebuild the file systems at the 6.xxx level. Particularly, 4.x does not have UFS2/MAC which is the wave of the future. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
Robert Huff wrote: Jerry McAllister writes: I believe there are also some file system improvements that you will miss if you do not rebuild the file systems at the 6.xxx level. Particularly, 4.x does not have UFS2/MAC which is the wave of the future. Robert Huff Yes. UFS2's softupdates are a really wonderful thing and a lifesaver. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 18:13, Scott Schappell wrote: The writing is on the wall and all that stuff. I've put this off long enough. What needs to be done to upgrade from 4.11 to 6.x? I have an extensive amount of ports installed and in googling and searching the list, it seems I need to make a jump to 5.2 then from there to 6. I'm about to do this, but I've opted for a clean install, as others have suggested - but with a twist. I've installed an additional drive the same size as the original (80GB) - I'm going to install on the new drive, transplant data as needed from the old drive, and when I'm happy with everything, use gmirror to turn both drives into a little RAID-1 plex. I'm also trying to do it remotely, with ssh access to the distant box and one right next to it, and a null-modem cable between them to give me serial console access during the upgrade. If it works I'll detail the steps here, as I wasn't able to find a quick and easy guide to this process anywhere. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
