Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Monday 12 June 2006 01:17, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Also, MS has been playing a cat and mouse game with the Wine people > for quite some time locking the Wine folks out by restricting > operating systems versions and software installations (DX9, IE, etc), > which has-for the most part-worked in MS's favor, but you may be > lucky and are able to access MSN chat on FreeBSD by some oversight by > a dev somewhere ;). After spending a couple of hours with Wine docs I'm thinking that looks like a daunting task. I'm now looking at a possible qemu solution thanks to another poster on the list. At worst, Win98se is good enough as a dedicated box just for MSN. It's already behind a dedicated firewall and I could always route through a proxy and limit it to msn.com sites only if necessary. Seeing how this thread has progressed, maybe I should have posted to the emulation list in the first place ;-) -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Jun 11, 2006, at 2:24 PM, dgmm wrote: On Sunday 11 June 2006 16:34, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/11/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 11 June 2006 03:49, Nikolas Britton wrote: I forgot about Konqueror :-) I just tried spoofing msn chat with Konqueror and it worked, well I got to the front page at least but I don't have an msn account so I can't test it any further. In Konqueror simply goto Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Browser Identification, and then click on "New...". set it to http://chat.msn.com and use "Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP". She can get into the the relevant groups page and access all the features there except for the live chat room. Closer inspection looks like it's all ActiveX stuff so that's most likely the problem. I tried as you suggested but Konqueror crashed :-( Spoof as Firefox 1.0/1.5 on Windows 2000 / XP. Spoof as NN4 / NN6 on Windows 95 / 98. Spoof as IE4 on Windows 95 etc. etc. It must be assuming you have ActiveX because your identifying yourself as IE6/XP... It appears to be more complex than either of us thought :-( I tried various useragent strings in Konqueror and the nearest I got was a blank chat page with no warnings. I've now also tried putting an IE5/Win95 useragent string into general.useragent.override in the about.config page of FireFox. This fooled msn completely but didn't do me any good. We are now downloading MSN Chat software. If a Security Warning box like this appears, please click its Yes button to complete the download. NOTE: If you click No, you will not be able to chat. The download is in progress It takes approximately 2 minutes. (using a 28.8k modem) Of course, nothing downloaded, and even if it had, well it ain't gonna work. I've got Wine compiled now so will see what I can do with that. -- Dave Yeah, I've tried similar solutions with Wine to try and get other programs to work that require ActiveX (Steam/HL), and I have been partially successful. In the end, you may just have to have a computer which can access MSN chat using XP or maybe OSX (?). I don't forsee full support being available to the Unix crowd anytime in the future, since many MSN related items are based on ActiveX and MS- rightfully so-won't give up something that makes their OS 'more accessible' to some items, be they websites or other software related things such as installers, etc since that would be giving up part of their market share. Also, MS has been playing a cat and mouse game with the Wine people for quite some time locking the Wine folks out by restricting operating systems versions and software installations (DX9, IE, etc), which has-for the most part-worked in MS's favor, but you may be lucky and are able to access MSN chat on FreeBSD by some oversight by a dev somewhere ;). -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Sunday 11 June 2006 16:34, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 6/11/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 11 June 2006 03:49, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > I forgot about Konqueror :-) I just tried spoofing msn chat with > > > Konqueror and it worked, well I got to the front page at least but I > > > don't have an msn account so I can't test it any further. In Konqueror > > > simply goto Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Browser > > > Identification, and then click on "New...". set it to > > > http://chat.msn.com and use "Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP". > > > > She can get into the the relevant groups page and access all the features > > there except for the live chat room. Closer inspection looks like it's > > all ActiveX stuff so that's most likely the problem. I tried as you > > suggested but Konqueror crashed :-( > > Spoof as Firefox 1.0/1.5 on Windows 2000 / XP. > Spoof as NN4 / NN6 on Windows 95 / 98. > Spoof as IE4 on Windows 95 etc. etc. > > It must be assuming you have ActiveX because your identifying yourself > as IE6/XP... It appears to be more complex than either of us thought :-( I tried various useragent strings in Konqueror and the nearest I got was a blank chat page with no warnings. I've now also tried putting an IE5/Win95 useragent string into general.useragent.override in the about.config page of FireFox. This fooled msn completely but didn't do me any good. We are now downloading MSN Chat software. If a Security Warning box like this appears, please click its Yes button to complete the download. NOTE: If you click No, you will not be able to chat. The download is in progress It takes approximately 2 minutes. (using a 28.8k modem) Of course, nothing downloaded, and even if it had, well it ain't gonna work. I've got Wine compiled now so will see what I can do with that. -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On 6/11/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 11 June 2006 03:49, Nikolas Britton wrote: > I forgot about Konqueror :-) I just tried spoofing msn chat with > Konqueror and it worked, well I got to the front page at least but I > don't have an msn account so I can't test it any further. In Konqueror > simply goto Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Browser > Identification, and then click on "New...". set it to > http://chat.msn.com and use "Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP". She can get into the the relevant groups page and access all the features there except for the live chat room. Closer inspection looks like it's all ActiveX stuff so that's most likely the problem. I tried as you suggested but Konqueror crashed :-( Spoof as Firefox 1.0/1.5 on Windows 2000 / XP. Spoof as NN4 / NN6 on Windows 95 / 98. Spoof as IE4 on Windows 95 etc. etc. It must be assuming you have ActiveX because your identifying yourself as IE6/XP... -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Sunday 11 June 2006 03:49, Nikolas Britton wrote: > I forgot about Konqueror :-) I just tried spoofing msn chat with > Konqueror and it worked, well I got to the front page at least but I > don't have an msn account so I can't test it any further. In Konqueror > simply goto Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Browser > Identification, and then click on "New...". set it to > http://chat.msn.com and use "Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP". She can get into the the relevant groups page and access all the features there except for the live chat room. Closer inspection looks like it's all ActiveX stuff so that's most likely the problem. I tried as you suggested but Konqueror crashed :-( -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Saturday 10 June 2006 22:23, Garrett Cooper wrote: > It's not possible using Firefox, but you might be able to do it if > you install Wine and Internet Explorer. I'd google for "Wine Internet > Explorer"; this will yield helpful information on how to get > everything setup with IE to work within Wine on Unix. Thanks for that. I suspected as much. I've not looked at wine in a long time but hear good things about it these days. -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On 6/10/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/10/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible to get into > an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other browser. > > Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying: > - > MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or > computer operating system. > > Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat: > > > Windows 95 or later > At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1, Windows NT > 3.1, and Unix Operating systems. > > Internet Explorer 4.0 or later > You can download the latest version for free at: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie. > > - or - > > Netscape Navigator 4.x > To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com. > - > > Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer. > Firefox on my Win2k laptop can get to the real front page of msn chat and the fact that they say that Netscape Navigator will work with there site makes me think you just need to spoof your user agent string. Try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ and change your agent string to something like this: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) I'd test it out for you but I don't have Firefox installed on my BSD systems, I use Opera and my Mac OS X system is without a network connection at the moment. I forgot about Konqueror :-) I just tried spoofing msn chat with Konqueror and it worked, well I got to the front page at least but I don't have an msn account so I can't test it any further. In Konqueror simply goto Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Browser Identification, and then click on "New...". set it to http://chat.msn.com and use "Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP". -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On 6/10/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible to get into an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other browser. Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying: - MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or computer operating system. Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat: Windows 95 or later At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1, Windows NT 3.1, and Unix Operating systems. Internet Explorer 4.0 or later You can download the latest version for free at: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie. - or - Netscape Navigator 4.x To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com. - Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer. Firefox on my Win2k laptop can get to the real front page of msn chat and the fact that they say that Netscape Navigator will work with there site makes me think you just need to spoof your user agent string. Try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ and change your agent string to something like this: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) I'd test it out for you but I don't have Firefox installed on my BSD systems, I use Opera and my Mac OS X system is without a network connection at the moment. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Jun 10, 2006, at 8:54 AM, dgmm wrote: I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible to get into an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other browser. Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying: -- --- MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or computer operating system. Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat: Windows 95 or later At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1, Windows NT 3.1, and Unix Operating systems. Internet Explorer 4.0 or later You can download the latest version for free at: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie. - or - Netscape Navigator 4.x To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com. -- --- Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer. -- Dave It's not possible using Firefox, but you might be able to do it if you install Wine and Internet Explorer. I'd google for "Wine Internet Explorer"; this will yield helpful information on how to get everything setup with IE to work within Wine on Unix. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
