Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:49:16PM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: Hi, Chris-- On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Chris Maness wrote: I am having trouble with my imap account on my FreeBSD box. I am using WU-IMAP, and thuderbird. I have been using this combo for years, and not had any issues. Now, my thuderbird is not displaying messages in the inbox. I can see them with pine, but not with IMAP clients. (squirrelmail, thunderbird). Pine complains about sequence error when I send a message. I was able to get it to work for a bit by deleteing the mbox file in my home directory, but now it is not working again. IS there a database or something somewhere that needs to be rebult? Can you double-check your mbox file? With the most recent 2007 version of UW-IMAP, I've seen intermittent corruption of the first line of a mbox file (ie, the From foo header) which causes the mbox to be unreadable by most clients until it is fixed by hand. It seems to be correlated with simultaneous write access by people who have a normal MUA and a second device like a smartphone (iPhone/Treo/BB). I've seen just over a half-dozen of these since Jan... -- -Vhuvk Thanks, How do I check it? Should I use another IMAP server? The best way is to look at the file with an editor such as vi. jerry Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:49:16PM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: Hi, Chris-- On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Chris Maness wrote: I am having trouble with my imap account on my FreeBSD box. I am using WU-IMAP, and thuderbird. I have been using this combo for years, and not had any issues. Now, my thuderbird is not displaying messages in the inbox. I can see them with pine, but not with IMAP clients. (squirrelmail, thunderbird). Pine complains about sequence error when I send a message. I was able to get it to work for a bit by deleteing the mbox file in my home directory, but now it is not working again. IS there a database or something somewhere that needs to be rebult? Can you double-check your mbox file? With the most recent 2007 version of UW-IMAP, I've seen intermittent corruption of the first line of a mbox file (ie, the From foo header) which causes the mbox to be unreadable by most clients until it is fixed by hand. It seems to be correlated with simultaneous write access by people who have a normal MUA and a second device like a smartphone (iPhone/Treo/BB). I've seen just over a half-dozen of these since Jan... -- -Vhuvk Thanks, How do I check it? Should I use another IMAP server? The best way is to look at the file with an editor such as vi. jerry How is this header look? I am not quite sure of what I am looking for. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Apr 8 10:49:02 2008 Date: 08 Apr 2008 10:49:02 -0700 From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-IMAP: 1207676934 4064487180 NonJunk $Forwarded Junk Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Apr 5 12:04:18 2008 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from atlanta.eham.net (atlanta.eham.net [69.36.242.135]) by ns1.kq6up.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m35J41m2056801 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: by atlanta.eham.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1870EEF401D; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:03:59 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TowerTalk] Antennas and Photons? Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Chris Maness wrote: How is this header look? I am not quite sure of what I am looking for. That seems to be fine. If it was corrupted, you'd see a line or a few lines of obvious binary garbage... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Chris Maness wrote: It does seem like something something is corrupt. What can I do to reset everything and restore everything so that thunderbird can read my inbox again. I have contempalted deleting the user, but I'm not sure if that will delete what ever is corrupted. Try to delete the account in T'bird, quit, and then re-add the account. Also check /var/log/maillog...imapd should be reporting errors if it sees anything wrong... -- -Chuck I tried doing that, but I still have the same errors. Also, squirrelmail will list the e-mail, but when I click on the e-mail, I get the message: ERROR: The server couldn't find the message you requested. Most probably your message list was out of date and the message has been moved away or deleted (perhaps by another program accessing the same mailbox). Click here to return to INBOX Also, I see no messages from imapd in the message log. The grep command pulls nothing. THanks, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Chris Maness wrote: It does seem like something something is corrupt. What can I do to reset everything and restore everything so that thunderbird can read my inbox again. I have contempalted deleting the user, but I'm not sure if that will delete what ever is corrupted. Try to delete the account in T'bird, quit, and then re-add the account. Also check /var/log/maillog...imapd should be reporting errors if it sees anything wrong... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Chris Maness wrote: How is this header look? I am not quite sure of what I am looking for. That seems to be fine. If it was corrupted, you'd see a line or a few lines of obvious binary garbage... -- -Chuck It does seem like something something is corrupt. What can I do to reset everything and restore everything so that thunderbird can read my inbox again. I have contempalted deleting the user, but I'm not sure if that will delete what ever is corrupted. Thanks, Chirs Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Tuesday 08 April 2008 21:32:45 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:42:41AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Chris Maness wrote: How is this header look? I am not quite sure of what I am looking for. That seems to be fine. If it was corrupted, you'd see a line or a few lines of obvious binary garbage... -- -Chuck It does seem like something something is corrupt. What can I do to reset everything and restore everything so that thunderbird can read my inbox again. I have contempalted deleting the user, but I'm not sure if that will delete what ever is corrupted. Very often it is only one character out of place. Each header should start with 'From' in the beginning of a line Since you mention one character, it should actually be starting with 'From ' and any line that starts with 'From ' that is not the start of a mail should be changed to 'From ' before ending up in the mbox file. This test weeds it out, allthough there's still room for false positives, easily resolved by the human brain: grep '^From ' /var/mail/myloginname |grep -v '200[78]$' -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Tuesday 08 April 2008 21:32:45 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:42:41AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Chris Maness wrote: How is this header look? I am not quite sure of what I am looking for. That seems to be fine. If it was corrupted, you'd see a line or a few lines of obvious binary garbage... -- -Chuck It does seem like something something is corrupt. What can I do to reset everything and restore everything so that thunderbird can read my inbox again. I have contempalted deleting the user, but I'm not sure if that will delete what ever is corrupted. Very often it is only one character out of place. Each header should start with 'From' in the beginning of a line Since you mention one character, it should actually be starting with 'From ' and any line that starts with 'From ' that is not the start of a mail should be changed to 'From ' before ending up in the mbox file. This test weeds it out, allthough there's still room for false positives, easily resolved by the human brain: grep '^From ' /var/mail/myloginname |grep -v '200[78]$' -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. Actually, the mail that is in /var/mail/chris gets moved to /home/chris/mbox Before it gets moved, it does not have this placeholder header. It only has the headers of e-mail sent since the last time mail was checked and moved to the mbox file. Also, none of headers in the mbox have the chicken lips not even the first one that I posted. Wouldn't these issues be rectified if I deleted the mbox file and started from scratch? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:42:41AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Chris Maness wrote:
How is this header look? I am not quite sure of what I am looking for.
That seems to be fine. If it was corrupted, you'd see a line or a few
lines of obvious binary garbage...
--
-Chuck
It does seem like something something is corrupt. What can I do to reset
everything and restore everything so that thunderbird can read my inbox
again. I have contempalted deleting the user, but I'm not sure if that
will delete what ever is corrupted.
Very often it is only one character out of place. Each header should
start with 'From' in the beginning of a line - eg as the first
character of the file or the first character after a newline-whitespace
combination.
It looks like you have some Greater-Thans ('') stuck in there.
Try taking those away from in front of the initial From.
jerry
From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Apr 8 10:49:02 2008
Date: 08 Apr 2008 10:49:02 -0700
From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-IMAP: 1207676934 4064487180 NonJunk $Forwarded Junk
Status: RO
This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not
a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software.
If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created
with the data reset to initial values.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Apr 5 12:04:18 2008
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from atlanta.eham.net (atlanta.eham.net [69.36.242.135])
by ns1.kq6up.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m35J41m2056801
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
etc, etc
Thanks,
Chirs Maness
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Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
Hi, Chris-- On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Chris Maness wrote: I am having trouble with my imap account on my FreeBSD box. I am using WU-IMAP, and thuderbird. I have been using this combo for years, and not had any issues. Now, my thuderbird is not displaying messages in the inbox. I can see them with pine, but not with IMAP clients. (squirrelmail, thunderbird). Pine complains about sequence error when I send a message. I was able to get it to work for a bit by deleteing the mbox file in my home directory, but now it is not working again. IS there a database or something somewhere that needs to be rebult? Can you double-check your mbox file? With the most recent 2007 version of UW-IMAP, I've seen intermittent corruption of the first line of a mbox file (ie, the From foo header) which causes the mbox to be unreadable by most clients until it is fixed by hand. It seems to be correlated with simultaneous write access by people who have a normal MUA and a second device like a smartphone (iPhone/Treo/BB). I've seen just over a half-dozen of these since Jan... -- -Vhuvk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
Hi, Chris-- On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Chris Maness wrote: I am having trouble with my imap account on my FreeBSD box. I am using WU-IMAP, and thuderbird. I have been using this combo for years, and not had any issues. Now, my thuderbird is not displaying messages in the inbox. I can see them with pine, but not with IMAP clients. (squirrelmail, thunderbird). Pine complains about sequence error when I send a message. I was able to get it to work for a bit by deleteing the mbox file in my home directory, but now it is not working again. IS there a database or something somewhere that needs to be rebult? Can you double-check your mbox file? With the most recent 2007 version of UW-IMAP, I've seen intermittent corruption of the first line of a mbox file (ie, the From foo header) which causes the mbox to be unreadable by most clients until it is fixed by hand. It seems to be correlated with simultaneous write access by people who have a normal MUA and a second device like a smartphone (iPhone/Treo/BB). I've seen just over a half-dozen of these since Jan... -- -Vhuvk Thanks, How do I check it? Should I use another IMAP server? Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Apr 7, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Chris Maness wrote:
How do I check it? Should I use another IMAP server?
Look at the first few lines; you should see either a placeholder
message like:
From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Apr 7 13:08:13 2008
Date: 07 Apr 2008 13:08:13 -0400
From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-IMAP: 1143826475 000664 NonJunk $NotJunk JunkRecorded $Junk Junk
Status: RO
This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is
not
a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system
software.
If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-
created
with the data reset to initial values.
...or a normal message with an X-IMAPbase: header, depending on which
version of UW IMAP you created the mailbox under. If you see binary
gunk (see forwarded message below), you're running into the same issue
I've seen.
Regards,
--
-Chuck
PS: Since the mail below was written, I have seen this corruption
happen with Outlook and Mozilla Tbird, not just with Apple Mail.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: January 24, 2008 11:05:50 AM PST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Imap-uw] imap-2007 on Solaris 8, possible mbox data
corruption?
Hi, all--
I've been a happy user of UW imapd for many years, but recently a
number of my users have started really doing a lot of mail access in
parallel from a workstation and something like an iPhone. I'd been
receiving more frequent reports of imapd locking problems with
imapd-2006h (ie, which would be resolved by them quitting and
restarting their MUA or smart phone), and have updated the imapd to
imap-2007 based on the comments in the release notes about the
locking issues which hopefully were resolved with 2006k.
The users have initially reported that their locking problems were
much improved after the update, however, the build of imap-2007 is
now showing signs of a mbox corruption issue which has affected
several users. Specifically, the first line or perhaps first few
lines of their mbox (either /var/mail/$USER, or ~$USER/mail/mbox)
which is normally the SMTP envelope From header, is being corrupted.
Two examples (with apologies for the length):
# head -2 mbox_200801114
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Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227])
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020 237e c0d2 2415 e4f7 0b1e 499d da55 e223
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160 2e63 6f6d 2028 7069 2e63 6f64 6566 6162
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Received: from list.precipice.net ([199.103.21.231])
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000 1703 0103 e042 3493 4acb baae 3b03 ebab
020 9316 0deb 2ac0 4489 6a5a 8a81 e8a7 12af
040 0504 8e1b 23a2 8b7b d5da 9f20 56dc d5c3
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200 a863 2cf0 0c04 8615 a32d f913 30c1 5a97
220 f912 e804 02de 34d6 ef39 c140 b143 dfe6
240 610f 3605 db76 d80b 664a 68ca 036b 9c4b
260 1970 c667 c73f 0b06 0b09 62af c80a a846
300 190e 525f 95a6 9590 62d9 6b3f e595 be29
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 7, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Chris Maness wrote: How do I check it? Should I use another IMAP server? Look at the first few lines; you should see either a placeholder message like: From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Apr 7 13:08:13 2008 Date: 07 Apr 2008 13:08:13 -0400 From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-IMAP: 1143826475 000664 NonJunk $NotJunk JunkRecorded $Junk Junk Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. This is the header that I have. ...or a normal message with an X-IMAPbase: header, depending on which version of UW IMAP you created the mailbox under. If you see binary gunk (see forwarded message below), you're running into the same issue I've seen. Regards, -- -Chuck I am running: imap-uw-2006j_3,1 This seems to be the current port on the tree. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Spool Problems / IMAP
Also, in pine. When I reply to a message, I get the message: [Syntax error in sequence] Thanks, Chris Maness Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
