Re: Microsoft wireless mouse problem

2004-04-20 Thread 10,000 Screaming Monkeys
Oops. I meant to reply to this sooner. 

On 04/17, Mark Ovens rearranged the electrons to read:
>>>Ah, now that _does_ WFM, and that fact makes me suspect that the
>>>problem lies with the USB driver rather than the mouse driver.

I think you're probably correct in that the problem lies in the USB
driver. I'd previously written to a Matthew Will who posted to
freebsd-current a while back about this same problem. He replied saying
that the problem ended up being something to the effect of a silent exit
in the USB driver that caused the problem. That's something that's
outside of the scope of my knowledge to monkey with, but perhaps it'll
help somebody else who's reading this and sufficiently motivated...

I'm not sure what was different this past reboot, but I plugged the
mouse into the PS/2 port and added the "allscreens_flags" option to
/etc/rc.conf and now the wireless mouse works on both the console and in
X. Nothing I did would make it work when connected to the USB port.

Now, the mouse is detected as:

psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4

/etc/rc.conf options look like this:

moused_enable="yes"
moused_type="auto"
allscreens_flags="-m on"

/etc/X11/XF86Config options look like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection

(I figured I'd deal with the extra buttons once I actually got it
working.)

So, it would appear I can at least use the mouse for now. Thanks again
for your suggestions.

- Jamie
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Re: Microsoft wireless mouse problem

2004-04-17 Thread Mark Ovens
10,000 Screaming Monkeys wrote:
> On 04/17, Mark Ovens rearranged the electrons to read:
>> 10,000 Screaming Monkeys wrote:
Plugging the mouse cord on the wireless receiver into the PS/2 mouse
port doesn't seem to have any effect on the matter -- the system detects
a mouse on the psm0 port, but it still doesn't respond to movement.
Ah, now that _does_ WFM, and that fact makes me suspect that the
problem lies with the USB driver rather than the mouse driver.
What are your mouse settings in rc.conf and XFree86config?
At the moment, all I have in /etc/rc.conf is:

usbd_enable="YES"
moused_type="auto"
Mine is:

moused_enable="yes"
moused_type="auto"
moused_port="/dev/psm0"
moused_flags=""
allscreens_flags="-m on"  # Enables the mouse on the console
That seems to detect the mouse properly and starts moused with the
correct port.
/etc/X11/XF86Config is:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection
Mine is:

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "sysmouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
and, at the end of the file:

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"

The above make it work when plugged into the PS/2 port.

HTH

Regards,

Mark

I've also tried killing moused and pointing the Device to /dev/ums[01],
but that didn't seem to make a difference.
I really think it would be worth getting this problem solved as MS 
cordless mice are very popular. 
They're not only popular, they're almost the only thing you can buy
anymore. I wanted a corded keyboard and mouse for work, but the only
models manufacturers put out with cords anymore (for keyboards, anyhow),
if they sell one at all (Are you listening, Logitech? You bastards...)
feel like crap to type on. But this isn't the place for that rant.
Also, to address Lucas Holt's comment, the keyboard & mouse combo I'm
trying to get working at work is the infrared model. I have the
Bluetooth model keyboard/mouse at home, but it's not connected to a BSD
box. I'm still puzzled why the wireless keyboard would work fine, but
the wireless mouse, which uses the same receiver, doesn't.
-Jamie
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Re: Microsoft wireless mouse problem

2004-04-17 Thread 10,000 Screaming Monkeys
On 04/17, Mark Ovens rearranged the electrons to read:
> Ah, now that _does_ WFM, and that fact makes me suspect that the
> problem lies with the USB driver rather than the mouse driver.
> 
> What are your mouse settings in rc.conf and XFree86config?

At the moment, all I have in /etc/rc.conf is:

usbd_enable="YES"
moused_type="auto"

That seems to detect the mouse properly and starts moused with the
correct port.

/etc/X11/XF86Config is:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection

I've also tried killing moused and pointing the Device to /dev/ums[01],
but that didn't seem to make a difference.

> I really think it would be worth getting this problem solved as MS 
> cordless mice are very popular. 

They're not only popular, they're almost the only thing you can buy
anymore. I wanted a corded keyboard and mouse for work, but the only
models manufacturers put out with cords anymore (for keyboards, anyhow),
if they sell one at all (Are you listening, Logitech? You bastards...)
feel like crap to type on. But this isn't the place for that rant.

Also, to address Lucas Holt's comment, the keyboard & mouse combo I'm
trying to get working at work is the infrared model. I have the
Bluetooth model keyboard/mouse at home, but it's not connected to a BSD
box. I'm still puzzled why the wireless keyboard would work fine, but
the wireless mouse, which uses the same receiver, doesn't.

-Jamie
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Re: Microsoft wireless mouse problem

2004-04-17 Thread Lucas Holt
another possible issue is that some microsoft wireless products use 
infrared and new high end products use bluetooth adapters.

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Re: Microsoft wireless mouse problem

2004-04-17 Thread Mark Ovens
10,000 Screaming Monkeys wrote:

I tried sending this to freebsd-hardware, but nobody replied, so I
thought I would try here, as well.
On one of my machines, I'm running FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT (last built on
Jan 15th, 2004).
I recently purchased a "Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop," which is a
wireless setup with a PS/2 keyboard and a USB mouse (with a USB->PS/2
converter, if I need it).
They don't work with FreeBSD. I've got one and spent ages searching the 
mailing lists and Google and it would appear that no-one can make them work.

Apparently Logitech cordless mice work and, as you say below, the corded 
version of the MS mice do, but not the MS cordless ones :-(

FWIW, I _suspect_ that it may be to do with the fact that the 
Intellipoint s/w that drives these things under Windows can report the 
battery status, which must be transmitted from the mouse, and it could 
be these messages that is "confusing" the USB (or mouse) driver under 
FreeBSD - the fact that the corded versions work supports this theory.

[snip]

Plugging the mouse cord on the wireless receiver into the PS/2 mouse
port doesn't seem to have any effect on the matter -- the system detects
a mouse on the psm0 port, but it still doesn't respond to movement.
Ah, now that _does_ WFM, and that fact makes me suspect that the problem 
lies with the USB driver rather than the mouse driver.

What are your mouse settings in rc.conf and XFree86config?

I really think it would be worth getting this problem solved as MS 
cordless mice are very popular. Device drivers are beyond my 
capabilities but if there are any USB driver hackers in the UK (Nick 
Hibma?) who would be interested in getting them working then I am 
prepared to lend them my mouse for a couple of weeks.

Regards,

Mark

Has anybody else seen a similar problem? Any suggestions as to what to
do next? Nothing I've tried seems to be working and I could use all the
help I can get...
- Jamie
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