Re: misc questions re setting LANG

2007-08-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 05:04:20AM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:30:48 -0700
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does anybody know howto set my env to iso.8859-1 (Latin1)
  so that, say [Alt]-i will produce an e-aigu?  I think that's
  e-acute.  I have it partlyworking in regular xterm.  I can
  type the string
  
  % cafe 
  
  with the final e being  hex-e9 and I get 
  
  zsh: command not found: \M-i
  
  which makes sense.  It would be nice to see the cafe echoed
  with the aigu over the e, but whatever.  On both the Gnome Terminal 
  and the KDE Konsole, zip, nada, nothing.  I've tried
  Setttings for the Konsole terms. No joy.  I don't know where to
  mouse and click for Gnome.  Oh,and most of the time in vi no Latin1
  chars.
 
 Gary,
 
 If you run
 
   % xterm -lc iso-8859-1
 
 you will get what you want, i.e. ISO-8859-1 terminal in UTF-8
 environment and Alt+I will produce é. Please read xterm man page for
 more explanation on -lc and -en. See also luit(1).
 
 If you really want to change the locale of Gnome/KDE/Xfce from default
 UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 (not recommended), then you should appropriately set
 LANG and LC_ALL variables in ~/.xinitrc.


Nikola,

Thanks for the clue re xterm.  I'm still using CTWM most
places and use xterm exclusively.  Sometimes I've been able to 
use 8859-1 in vi, sometimes not.  Never read the man page (hanging
my head).  OTOT, I do have the LC* variables set ... else perl 
complains.

...It's time to join the 20th century:)

gary

 
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Re: misc questions re setting LANG

2007-08-28 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:30:48 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Does anybody know howto set my env to iso.8859-1 (Latin1)
   so that, say [Alt]-i will produce an e-aigu?  I think that's
   e-acute.  I have it partlyworking in regular xterm.  I can
 type the string
 
   % cafe 
 
   with the final e being  hex-e9 and I get 
 
   zsh: command not found: \M-i
 
   which makes sense.  It would be nice to see the cafe echoed
 with the aigu over the e, but whatever.  On both the Gnome Terminal 
   and the KDE Konsole, zip, nada, nothing.  I've tried
 Setttings for the Konsole terms. No joy.  I don't know where to
 mouse and click for Gnome.  Oh,and most of the time in vi no Latin1
 chars.

Gary,

If you run

  % xterm -lc iso-8859-1

you will get what you want, i.e. ISO-8859-1 terminal in UTF-8
environment and Alt+I will produce é. Please read xterm man page for
more explanation on -lc and -en. See also luit(1).

If you really want to change the locale of Gnome/KDE/Xfce from default
UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 (not recommended), then you should appropriately set
LANG and LC_ALL variables in ~/.xinitrc.

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Misc questions (reposted, first reply only went out to origional user requesting it)

2003-01-25 Thread Willie Viljoen
On Saturday 25 January 2003 20:32, pura life CR wrote:
 Hi, I am freebsd user, I have few misc questions:

 1. Where can i get the source code of the daemon saver? I want to know
 how the logo can jump in the screen.

/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c


 2. What command can i use if I want to crypt a word and I see it encrypoted
 just like the /etc/master.passwd file? For example, I want to know how the
 password foobar would be encrypted in /etc/master.passwd if It would be
 my real passwd.

This would not be done with a command. It is done with a call to the crypt() 
function in libcrypt. You may see the crypt(3) manpage for more information 
(type man 3 crypt at your command prompt)


 3. Where can I get more informacion about svr4 and linux emulation?, What
 does this emulation consist on? Can I run linux and svr4 binaries?.


See section 20 (Linux Binary Compatibility) in the FreeBSD handbook. If you 
installed the doc distribution, the handbook is in 
/usr/share/doc/handbook/index.html on your file system. The SVR4 emulation 
works in the same way as the Linux emulation, so the section of the handbook 
applies here too.

 That's all for now.

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Re: Misc Questions.

2003-01-25 Thread Bill Moran
You'll get better response if you send each question as a seperate email,
with an appropriate subject line for each one.  May sound silly, but a
lot of people will delete messages with subjects like Misc Questions
without even reading them.

pura life CR wrote:

1. Where can i get the source code of the daemon saver? I want to know 
how the logo can jump in the screen.

/usr/src/usr.sbin/daemon/


2. What command can i use if I want to crypt a word and I see it 
encrypoted just like the /etc/master.passwd file? For example, I want to 
know how the password foobar would be encrypted in /etc/master.passwd 
if It would be my real passwd.

I don't know the answer to this one, check the source.


3. Where can I get more informacion about svr4 and linux emulation?,


The handbook is a good place to start:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html


What does this emulation consist on? Can I run linux and svr4 binaries?.


It's not really emulation.  In the case of Linux, it actually installs a
RedHat kernel and uses it when the system calls differ from the native
FreeBSD system calls.
You should be able to run most Linux and srv4 binaries.  In my experience,
I've only ever come across 1 Linux binary that wouldn't run (Pervasive
database server).  I can't vouch for the srv4 compatibility, as I've never
used it.

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Fwd: Re: Misc Questions. (reposted yet again)

2003-01-25 Thread Willie Viljoen
Yet again, I post only to the sender, not the list, sorry :)

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Subject: Re: Misc Questions.
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:07:30 +0200
From: Willie Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some friendly corrections, sorry Bill :-)

On Saturday 25 January 2003 20:55, Bill Moran wrote:
 You'll get better response if you send each question as a seperate email,
 with an appropriate subject line for each one.  May sound silly, but a
 lot of people will delete messages with subjects like Misc Questions
 without even reading them.

I'm with you on the subjects, but he's perfectly fine putting it in one
e-mail, multiple mails would have annoyed me more.

 pura life CR wrote:
  1. Where can i get the source code of the daemon saver? I want to know
  how the logo can jump in the screen.

 /usr/src/usr.sbin/daemon/

As I pointed out in my previous post, it is at
/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c

/usr/src/usr.sbin/daemon contains source for the daemon(8) utility used to
daemonize a normally non-daemon process.

  2. What command can i use if I want to crypt a word and I see it
  encrypoted just like the /etc/master.passwd file? For example, I want to
  know how the password foobar would be encrypted in /etc/master.passwd
  if It would be my real passwd.

 I don't know the answer to this one, check the source.

See my other post, it's in libcrypt, more information is in crypt(3)

  3. Where can I get more informacion about svr4 and linux emulation?,

 The handbook is a good place to start:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html

  What does this emulation consist on? Can I run linux and svr4 binaries?.

 It's not really emulation.  In the case of Linux, it actually installs a
 RedHat kernel and uses it when the system calls differ from the native
 FreeBSD system calls.
 You should be able to run most Linux and srv4 binaries.  In my experience,
 I've only ever come across 1 Linux binary that wouldn't run (Pervasive
 database server).  I can't vouch for the srv4 compatibility, as I've never
 used it.

Bill is spot on here. For more information, section 20 in the handbook (other
post)

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Re: Misc Questions.

2003-01-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:55:50PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:

 2. What command can i use if I want to crypt a word and I see it 
 encrypoted just like the /etc/master.passwd file? For example, I want to 
 know how the password foobar would be encrypted in /etc/master.passwd 
 if It would be my real passwd.
 
 I don't know the answer to this one, check the source.

crypt(3) is the C language interface.  Or perl will let you get at it
from the command line.  The format of the salt determines the
encryption algorithm used:

Eg. DES just uses two characters:

% perl -e 'print crypt(password, xx), \n;'
xxj31ZMTZzkVA

whereas MD5 uses the 'Modular' format and an 8 character salt:

% perl -e 'print crypt(q{password}, q{$1$$}), \n;'
$1$$UYCIxa628.9qXjpQCjM4a.

Only MD5 and DES are available in FreeBSD 4.x --- other systems may
support Blowfish using salts that start $2$

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Re: Misc Questions.

2003-01-25 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:55:50PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
snip
 2. What command can i use if I want to crypt a word and I see it 
 encrypoted just like the /etc/master.passwd file? For example, I want to 
 know how the password foobar would be encrypted in /etc/master.passwd 
 if It would be my real passwd.
 
 I don't know the answer to this one, check the source.
 
snip

If you are using md5 password hashing for master.passwd then you can use
the command:
# md5 -s mypassword
This should show you what the string ``mypassword'' will hash to using
md5.  However, the other options are des and blf (blowfish).  To see
which you are using check the paramter passwd_format in /etc/login.conf.
I don't know what you would use to figure the others, at least not
through bash.

Nathan
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Re: Fwd: Re: Misc Questions. (reposted yet again)

2003-01-25 Thread Bill Moran
Willie Viljoen wrote:

Some friendly corrections, sorry Bill :-)


Not a problem.  I'd rather be corrected once than be wrong over and over
again.  (That's assuming I'm smart enough to remember the correction ...)


On Saturday 25 January 2003 20:55, Bill Moran wrote:

You'll get better response if you send each question as a seperate email,
with an appropriate subject line for each one.  May sound silly, but a
lot of people will delete messages with subjects like Misc Questions
without even reading them.


I'm with you on the subjects, but he's perfectly fine putting it in one
e-mail, multiple mails would have annoyed me more.


Well, I stated it the way I did because it's in line with this document:
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
which has been the rulebook on how to use questions@ for as long as I
can remember.


pura life CR wrote:


1. Where can i get the source code of the daemon saver? I want to know
how the logo can jump in the screen.


/usr/src/usr.sbin/daemon/


As I pointed out in my previous post, it is at
/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c

/usr/src/usr.sbin/daemon contains source for the daemon(8) utility used to
daemonize a normally non-daemon process.


My mistake.  I didn't fully pay attention to the results of my search, thus
my reply was inaccurate.

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Commands to check encrypted passwords (was Re: Misc Questions.)

2003-01-25 Thread Willie Viljoen
Nathan,

This won't work, the md5 system command is to generated md5 message digests. 
These are very different from salted passwords, which are a one-way 
encryption that will almost never be the same. Message digests are always the 
same, using them to encrypt passwords would be abit silly :)

Digests are used (normally) to check the integrity of a downloaded file.

To do this from the command line (without compiling a C program to use it from 
libcrypt) you can use perl, as Matthew Seamon points out:

% perl -e 'print crypt(q{password}, q{$1$$}), \n;'
$1$$UYCIxa628.9qXjpQCjM4a.

In this case, the 's would be the 8 character MD5 salt.

Will

On Saturday 25 January 2003 21:35, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:55:50PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 snip

  2. What command can i use if I want to crypt a word and I see it
  encrypoted just like the /etc/master.passwd file? For example, I want to
  know how the password foobar would be encrypted in /etc/master.passwd
  if It would be my real passwd.
 
  I don't know the answer to this one, check the source.

 snip

 If you are using md5 password hashing for master.passwd then you can use
 the command:
 # md5 -s mypassword
 This should show you what the string ``mypassword'' will hash to using
 md5.  However, the other options are des and blf (blowfish).  To see
 which you are using check the paramter passwd_format in /etc/login.conf.
 I don't know what you would use to figure the others, at least not
 through bash.

 Nathan

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Re: Fwd: Re: Misc Questions. (reposted yet again)

2003-01-25 Thread Willie Viljoen
  On Saturday 25 January 2003 20:55, Bill Moran wrote:
 You'll get better response if you send each question as a seperate email,
 with an appropriate subject line for each one.  May sound silly, but a
 lot of people will delete messages with subjects like Misc Questions
 without even reading them.
 
  I'm with you on the subjects, but he's perfectly fine putting it in one
  e-mail, multiple mails would have annoyed me more.

 Well, I stated it the way I did because it's in line with this document:
 http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
 which has been the rulebook on how to use questions@ for as long as I
 can remember.

Can't argue with the rulebook, I guess I was abit of an ignoramis there, 
apologies. We should be moving this to freebsd-chat@ soon :)

Will

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Re: Commands to check encrypted passwords (was Re: Misc Questions.)

2003-01-25 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 09:48:03PM +0200, Willie Viljoen wrote:
 Nathan,
 
 This won't work, the md5 system command is to generated md5 message digests. 
 These are very different from salted passwords, which are a one-way 
 encryption that will almost never be the same. Message digests are always the 
 same, using them to encrypt passwords would be abit silly :)
 
 Digests are used (normally) to check the integrity of a downloaded file.
 
 To do this from the command line (without compiling a C program to use it from 
 libcrypt) you can use perl, as Matthew Seamon points out:
 
 % perl -e 'print crypt(q{password}, q{$1$$}), \n;'
 $1$$UYCIxa628.9qXjpQCjM4a.
 
 In this case, the 's would be the 8 character MD5 salt.
 
 Will

Will,

Thanks for the clarification!  My own ignorance on the subject led me to
post bad info to the list!  I'll have to read up on all this.

Thanks,

Nathan

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