Re: [SDBUG] Re: Monitor dimming

2003-07-03 Thread Peter Leftwich
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> I suspect that XFree86 is just applying its default settings, given
> that you haven't told it to do otherwise.

Makes sense.  I'm not complaining.

> > Is xset the only thing that can make use of DPMS or is there a binary in
> > the default / standard / minimum *BSD installation to control it too?
> Look at vidcontrol(1) -- specifically the '-t blanktime' option.  You
> can go direct to the screen saver on a console screen by hitting
> Shift-Pause -- see splash(4).  However whether this involves DPMS
> directly or not, I don't know.

Good ideas, vidcontrol and splash . . . I just tried the Shift+Pause trick
and it did not work, probably because I have X running "elsewhere."

By the way, is there a good write-up somewhere why I cannot run
xscreensaver while logged in as root?  Thanks for entertaining this thread
of mine for so long, Dr. Seaman.

>   Cheers,
>   Matthew
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   26 The Paddocks
>   Savill Way
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Re: [SDBUG] Re: Monitor dimming

2003-07-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 09:37:46PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> > There's lots of stuff that might go into XF86Config which isn't
> > mentioned in the automatically generated config file, produced by
> 
> But I meant, in *my* XF86Config there is no mention of the blanktime or
> standby or suspend timings, and yet, after about 5-10 minutes of idle time
> my monitor somehow KNOWS to dim itself.  Where else might I find the cause?

I suspect that XFree86 is just applying its default settings, given
that you haven't told it to do otherwise.

> Is xset the only thing that can make use of DPMS or is there a binary in
> the default / standard / minimum *BSD installation to control it too?

Look at vidcontrol(1) -- specifically the '-t blanktime' option.  You
can go direct to the screen saver on a console screen by hitting
Shift-Pause -- see splash(4).  However whether this involves DPMS
directly or not, I don't know.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: [SDBUG] Re: Monitor dimming

2003-07-02 Thread Peter Leftwich
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> If you want -- it's entirely up to you.  X has an impressively long
> list of places and variant filenames where it will search for the
> XF86Config file: so much so that you should take some care about where
> you leave copies lying around.  I believe that /etc/X11/XF86Config is
> the preferred, if you like, "standard" location under FreeBSD.

I have enough stuff in /etc  :-)  I'll just keep it /etc/XF86Config

> > None of these "ServerFlags" are mentioned in my XF86Config file.  Is the
> > blanking, standing by and suspending controlled by the "ati" driver in my
> > case, do you think?  Or is there a default of some sort that is "compiled"
> > into the X server binary??
> There's lots of stuff that might go into XF86Config which isn't
> mentioned in the automatically generated config file, produced by

But I meant, in *my* XF86Config there is no mention of the blanktime or
standby or suspend timings, and yet, after about 5-10 minutes of idle time
my monitor somehow KNOWS to dim itself.  Where else might I find the cause?

(Nota Bene: I'm happy with the setting, just curious about its source!!)

> 'XFree86 -configure'. In this case, these options will be applicable
> if your monitor supports DPMS, irrespective of the make of your video
> card.  Most monitors do, now-a-days.
>   Cheers,
>   Matthew
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   26 The Paddocks
>   Savill Way
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow
> Tel: +44 1628 476614  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK

Fuel for a mean spirited virus or shell script ;-)  I say!

Is xset the only thing that can make use of DPMS or is there a binary in
the default / standard / minimum *BSD installation to control it too?

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Re: [SDBUG] Re: Monitor dimming

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:17:49PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 
> I just looked at my /var/log/XFree86.0.log file and it somehow knows how to
> find my /etc/XF86Config file.  Should I move it to the path you provide?

If you want -- it's entirely up to you.  X has an impressively long
list of places and variant filenames where it will search for the
XF86Config file: so much so that you should take some care about where
you leave copies lying around.  I believe that /etc/X11/XF86Config is
the preferred, if you like, "standard" location under FreeBSD.
 
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> > Option   "BlankTime" "10"
> > Option   "StandbyTime" "20"
> > Option   "SuspendTime" "30"
> > Option   "OffTime" "30"
> > EndSection
> > XF86Config(5) has the details.
> 
> None of these "ServerFlags" are mentioned in my XF86Config file.  Is the
> blanking, standing by and suspending controlled by the "ati" driver in my
> case, do you think?  Or is there a default of some sort that is "compiled"
> into the X server binary??

There's lots of stuff that might go into XF86Config which isn't
mentioned in the automatically generated config file, produced by
'XFree86 -configure'. In this case, these options will be applicable
if your monitor supports DPMS, irrespective of the make of your video
card.  Most monitors do, now-a-days.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: [SDBUG] Re: Monitor dimming

2003-07-01 Thread Peter Leftwich
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:20:38PM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> > Can someone tell me what controls the dimming of my monitor after a set
> > amount of minutes of idle time?  It is not xscreensaver; I'm assuming it is
> > something called from "startx" or at boot time in rc.conf?
> >
> > I ask because I would like to [1] change the idle timeout and [2] run a
> > command line command to "dim now."  Thanks all, please CC: me!
>
> You can put settings into /etc/X11/XF86Config, like this:

I just looked at my /var/log/XFree86.0.log file and it somehow knows how to
find my /etc/XF86Config file.  Should I move it to the path you provide?

> Section "ServerFlags"
> Option   "BlankTime" "10"
> Option   "StandbyTime" "20"
> Option   "SuspendTime" "30"
> Option   "OffTime" "30"
> EndSection
> XF86Config(5) has the details.

None of these "ServerFlags" are mentioned in my XF86Config file.  Is the
blanking, standing by and suspending controlled by the "ati" driver in my
case, do you think?  Or is there a default of some sort that is "compiled"
into the X server binary??

> You can also use xset(1) to modify the settings from within an X session:
> % xset dpms 1200 1800 1800
> % xset dpms force standby

Holy [expletive beginning with S]!!!  The command `xset -display :0 dpms
force standby` just worked!  Yeayy.  Going to make a blanknow alias.

> [Nb. xset(1) uses units of seconds, XF86Config uses units of minutes.
> So much for consistency.]

G.  Programmers unite and standardize on future builds!!

> Programs like window managers may also modify the DPMS settings -- use
>% xset q
> to see the current settings.
>
>   Cheers,
>   Matthew
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   26 The Paddocks
>   Savill Way
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> Tel: +44 1628 476614  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK

Thanks for the notes, Doctor!!

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Re: Monitor dimming

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:20:38PM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> Can someone tell me what controls the dimming of my monitor after a set
> amount of minutes of idle time?  It is not xscreensaver; I'm assuming it is
> something called from "startx" or at boot time in rc.conf?
> 
> I ask because I would like to [1] change the idle timeout and [2] run a
> command line command to "dim now."  Thanks all, please CC: me!

You can put settings into /etc/X11/XF86Config, like this:

Section "ServerFlags"
Option   "BlankTime" "10"
Option   "StandbyTime" "20"
Option   "SuspendTime" "30"
Option   "OffTime" "30"
EndSection

XF86Config(5) has the details.

You can also use xset(1) to modify the settings from within an X session:

% xset dpms 1200 1800 1800
% xset dpms force standby

[Nb. xset(1) uses units of seconds, XF86Config uses units of minutes.
So much for consistency.]

Programs like window managers may also modify the DPMS settings -- use

   % xset q

to see the current settings.

Cheers,

Matthew

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