Re: Needing a guide/tutorial please

2006-08-18 Thread bsd
  Looking for a guide online somewhere that will walk me through
 setting up a mail server with the following items on it.

 SpamAssassin
 Postfix (pop3 and smtp setup)
 MySQL (for database driven mail user administration)
 MyPHPAdmin (to visually admin the database)
 Squirrelmail (for webmail)
 Apache (for squirrelmail)
 Dovecot Imap (for squirrelmail)
 Postfix Admin - this is the reason for the need to have a mysql driven
 mail user database.  It's apparently required for this to work.  Plus
 database driven user management tends to be easier.  Of course, if you
 know
 of a better way to graphically admin mail users without using a database,
 I'm all ears.  :)
 And lastly, some kind of web based server admin page that's similar to
 webmin, but more secure.

  I want to setup a mail server with all these elements, have
 postfix, squirrelmail and dovecot be database driven and somehow create a
 mailbox tree for the webmail users for saved, spam, sent and trashcan
 folders.  Also, lastly, which format for mail is better?  Maildir or
 Mbox?  I'm partial to Mbox, but I've heard some others say Maildir is
 better.  The server is only going to host about 30-40 users for a realty
 company, so security is priority, plus it needs to have ease of
 administration because the guy who's going to admin this in the end (I'm
 just building it, he's maintaining it) isn't unix savy.  I've already done
 a lot of google diving, but with little luck.  Hence why I'm asking
 here.  If someone knows of a good guide or series of guides that'll help
 me
 through all this, it'd be greatly appreciated.  I'm used to doing this the
 hard way with sendmail and the regular freebsd users through the
 console.  So I'm really new to postfix, but I'm using it because it's
 supposedly more secure.  I'd have the guy who's admining it do the same,
 but he's too green in the console to risk it.  ;)

  Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide.  :)


 Steven Lake
 Owner/Technical Writer
 Raiden's Realm
 www.raiden.net
 A friendly web community


Steve,

Youve asked at lot of questions in one here.

For 30 to 40 users what you are proposing is way over the top, I would
stay away from mysql etc.

I am using qmail + courier(pop3  imap) + calamav + squirrelmail etc base
on the installation from http://www.qmailrocks.org/ with some tweeks from
Bill Olson's site http://www.goodcleanemail.com/ for spamassassin rules
and learning etc. Bill's site is useful as he uses FreeBsd. I also used
the Chkuser patch (rejecting mails during smtp for non existing users)
from John Simpson's site http://www.jms1.net/ + block lists. The setup
uses web based qmailadmin for managing mail boxes.

It has been running for nearly 2 years now and the only maintanence has
been updating clamav and tweeking the spamassassin rules.

BTW qmailrocks has an updated script for a freebsd installation using most
of the latest sw from ports. Although this is Beta3 it works - just used
it for a small business, there is also an active mailing list where Bill
and John are posting.

Hope this helps and guys please no postfix is better etc.

Rob

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Re: Needing a guide/tutorial please

2006-08-18 Thread Helge Preuss
  Looking for a guide online somewhere that will walk me through
 setting up a mail server with the following items on it.

 SpamAssassin
 Postfix (pop3 and smtp setup)
 MySQL (for database driven mail user administration)
 MyPHPAdmin (to visually admin the database)
 Squirrelmail (for webmail)
 Apache (for squirrelmail)
 Dovecot Imap (for squirrelmail)
 Postfix Admin - this is the reason for the need to have a mysql driven
 mail user database.  It's apparently required for this to work.  Plus
 database driven user management tends to be easier.  Of course, if you
 know
 of a better way to graphically admin mail users without using a database,
 I'm all ears.  :)
 And lastly, some kind of web based server admin page that's similar to
 webmin, but more secure.


Here is a guide for Gentoo Linux that addresses most, if not all of your
requirements:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml

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Re: Needing a guide/tutorial please

2006-08-18 Thread Ivan Levchenko

This might be overkill, but take a look at these things. i'm sure that
you can find what you need there:

http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster.shtml
http://www.screamingelectron.org/forum/printthread.php?t=725

On 8/18/06, Helge Preuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Looking for a guide online somewhere that will walk me through
 setting up a mail server with the following items on it.

 SpamAssassin
 Postfix (pop3 and smtp setup)
 MySQL (for database driven mail user administration)
 MyPHPAdmin (to visually admin the database)
 Squirrelmail (for webmail)
 Apache (for squirrelmail)
 Dovecot Imap (for squirrelmail)
 Postfix Admin - this is the reason for the need to have a mysql driven
 mail user database.  It's apparently required for this to work.  Plus
 database driven user management tends to be easier.  Of course, if you
 know
 of a better way to graphically admin mail users without using a database,
 I'm all ears.  :)
 And lastly, some kind of web based server admin page that's similar to
 webmin, but more secure.


Here is a guide for Gentoo Linux that addresses most, if not all of your
requirements:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml

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Best Regards,

Ivan Levchenko
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Re: Needing a guide/tutorial please

2006-08-18 Thread Derrick Edwards
On Friday 18 August 2006 05:59, Helge Preuss wrote:
   Looking for a guide online somewhere that will walk me through
  setting up a mail server with the following items on it.
 
  SpamAssassin
  Postfix (pop3 and smtp setup)
  MySQL (for database driven mail user administration)
  MyPHPAdmin (to visually admin the database)
  Squirrelmail (for webmail)
  Apache (for squirrelmail)
  Dovecot Imap (for squirrelmail)
  Postfix Admin - this is the reason for the need to have a mysql driven
  mail user database.  It's apparently required for this to work.  Plus
  database driven user management tends to be easier.  Of course, if you
  know
  of a better way to graphically admin mail users without using a database,
  I'm all ears.  :)
  And lastly, some kind of web based server admin page that's similar to
  webmin, but more secure.

 Here is a guide for Gentoo Linux that addresses most, if not all of your
 requirements:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml

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Hi, 
I dont think what you propose is over the top at all. I have all these 
elements running now. Using (http://www.postfix.org/docs.html), you can 
pretty much get everything running from there. In addition to the programs 
you already stated I would recommend using amavisd-new 
(http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd). With that you get SpamAssassin and 
Primary/Secondary antivirus protection. Also, make sure you use TLS to secure 
your webmail traffic. If you have any questions let me know. Really, it is 
quite easy to get this stuff and running. I never used webmin, but apache 
maintenace should be minimal.
r/
Derrick
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Re: Needing a guide/tutorial please

2006-08-17 Thread jan gestre

On 8/18/06, Steve Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Looking for a guide online somewhere that will walk me through
setting up a mail server with the following items on it.

SpamAssassin
Postfix (pop3 and smtp setup)
MySQL (for database driven mail user administration)
MyPHPAdmin (to visually admin the database)
Squirrelmail (for webmail)
Apache (for squirrelmail)
Dovecot Imap (for squirrelmail)
Postfix Admin - this is the reason for the need to have a mysql driven
mail user database.  It's apparently required for this to work.  Plus
database driven user management tends to be easier.  Of course, if you
know
of a better way to graphically admin mail users without using a database,
I'm all ears.  :)
And lastly, some kind of web based server admin page that's similar to
webmin, but more secure.

 I want to setup a mail server with all these elements, have
postfix, squirrelmail and dovecot be database driven and somehow create a
mailbox tree for the webmail users for saved, spam, sent and trashcan
folders.  Also, lastly, which format for mail is better?  Maildir or
Mbox?  I'm partial to Mbox, but I've heard some others say Maildir is
better.  The server is only going to host about 30-40 users for a realty
company, so security is priority, plus it needs to have ease of
administration because the guy who's going to admin this in the end (I'm
just building it, he's maintaining it) isn't unix savy.  I've already done
a lot of google diving, but with little luck.  Hence why I'm asking
here.  If someone knows of a good guide or series of guides that'll help
me
through all this, it'd be greatly appreciated.  I'm used to doing this the
hard way with sendmail and the regular freebsd users through the
console.  So I'm really new to postfix, but I'm using it because it's
supposedly more secure.  I'd have the guy who's admining it do the same,
but he's too green in the console to risk it.  ;)

 try using google, it will point you to the tutorial's url but since you
already posted that question here, the postfix website has lots of howto in
setting up a mailserver, i for one used the howto's in postfix' website. but
if your too lazy to google :D this url's might help:



http://freebie.miraclenet.co.th/server/install_fbsd/
http://www.astro.ufl.edu/it/install/freebsd.html

here a suggestion, instead of using squirrelmail try using roundcube, we use

it here in our office. roundcube's ajax like interface's absolutely awesome
compared to squirrelmail bland interface, you can install it via subversion.
dovecot is a good choice for imap and pop3 service. postfix can support both
mbox and maildir but i prefer maildir. you can secure your box by chrooting
postfix or putting it behind a firewall. there are so many ways to make it
fully secure, those i mentioned are just a few of them.




HTH
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