Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On May 16, 2006, at 11:15 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:08 AM To: Henry Lenzi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-17 Thread Philip J. Koenig
Sorry to be jumping into this late. On 15 May 2006 at 8:57, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you get to vote on the selection of various bits of code changes. That sounds more realistic to me than assuming committers are also the sole FreeBSD esthetic committee too. But

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:22 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Henry Lenzi; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo On May 16, 2006, at 11:15 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:08 AM To: Henry Lenzi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo On May 15, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Henry Lenzi wrote

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread John Birrell
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:14:23AM +0100, Gary Hayers wrote: Quite frankly it is of no importance as the community were not the ones with a say about it, the FreeBSD management were and they did. The new logo was selected using a democratic vote of people who have commit privileges to the

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Gary Hayers
John Birrell wrote: Quite frankly it is of no importance as the community were not the ones with a say about it, the FreeBSD management were and they did. The new logo was selected using a democratic vote of people who have commit privileges to the various parts of FreeBSD. This was

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hayers Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: No, the majority of people who have posted do not like it, thats not the whole

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Birrell Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:29 PM To: Gary Hayers Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo Those people who want to influence decisions like the selection of a new logo really only

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Henry Lenzi
It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. Ted You're kidding, right?

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On May 15, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Henry Lenzi wrote: It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it distracted from the presentation of the

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone
Henry Lenzi wrote: It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. Ted

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Henry Lenzi
BTW, I entirely apologize for singling out a religious group. Perhaps I've should've phrased it as I hope this didn't have to do with any concern or discomfort related to religious groups. Maybe I'm reading much too many polls... Anyways, I still find it hard to believe it...Although I mentioned

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Varuna
On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:57, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henry Lenzi Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo I really hope the rationale wasn't

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 13 May 2006, Varuna wrote: On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:57, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henry Lenzi Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo I really

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Varuna Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:13 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Henry Lenzi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo That's ironic to me because what I perceive

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Andrew Wingorodov
But to ignoramusus the new logo doesen't look like a devil image, it looks like a sex toy. It similarly to not to horns of a daemon, but female breasts. Bad idea. -- Andrew Wingborn http://andr.ru/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-14 Thread Fabian Keil
Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fabian Keil Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Axel S.

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Gary Hayers
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The community has already spoken, go back and look at all the posts on this and the other lists on the logo, the majority of them don't like it. Ted No, the majority of people who have posted do not like it, thats not the whole community. Maybe you should do your

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, May 14, 2006 a las 04:14:17PM +0100, Gary Hayers escribió: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The community has already spoken, go back and look at all the posts on this and the other lists on the logo, the majority of them don't like it. Ted No, the majority of people who have

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Viktor Cemasko
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:34:33 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: I don't like the new logo either, but this is a personal opinion only. Agreed. I ask hereby the people who are in charge for such decisions to make a web page for a poll of the community. Thx. me too. -- Best regards, Cemasko

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-14 Thread Norberto Meijome
(yes...adding to the fire... oh well) On Sat, 13 May 2006 21:38:56 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is really a great example of why this logo does nothing to help the FreeBSD project. probably true. What about the logo makes you think of an operating system?

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hayers Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The community has already spoken, go back and look at all the posts

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-14 Thread Gary Hayers
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: No, the majority of people who have posted do not like it, thats not the whole community. Maybe you should do your research better. It's probably a revelation to you but you do not have to poll the entire community to find out if the majority of them don't like

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Stanford Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo Why, oh why, would you post this? So help me to understand...The FreeBSD Project

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Greg Barniskis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:36 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: cpghost; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I take affront to such answers because

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread David Stanford
On 5/13/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Stanford Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo Why, oh why, would you

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone
The community doesen't want the new logo and the majority of the community prefers Beastie over the sex-toy. Not that I want to upset anything, but I thought Beastie was the logo. Where might a see a copy of the sex-toy? Is it that ugly sphere with the 2 cones for ears?

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread Henry Lenzi
you are attempting to destroy the new logo's image by imaturely calling it a sex toy and in turn are slowly taking away from those precious dollars put into aquiring it. I'm sorry to say, but it was a bad choice. The little devil has been with us for a long time. Apple has an apple, Windows has

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-13 Thread Erik Trulsson
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry McAllister Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Beech Rintoul; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo As a long time reader of this list I did

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-13 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 09:59:59AM -0400, fbsd wrote: The point being it was not announced on the questions list. Oh, where would an announcement go... like, the announcement mailinglist? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:26:38 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fabian Keil Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:06 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: David Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 8:11 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo On 5/13/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your missing something - they didn't

RE: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henry Lenzi Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo I really hope the rationale wasn't something like evangelical christians having problem with the little

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Axel S. Gruner Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:46 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD Logo Am Mittwoch, den 10.05.2006, 02:05 -0700 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: My guess

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAve Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:15 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo To be blunt about it, you and everyone else had their chance. My wife, a designer, knew FreeBSD had

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Barniskis Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo The logo issue is a horse that has been solidly beaten to death

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Ceri Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:31 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Jonathan Horne; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo On 10/5/06 09:18, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone already posted

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Barniskis Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:07 AM To: cpghost Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo These are indeed all perfectly valid questions. What I

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Thursday 11 May 2006 00:10, you wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Barniskis Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:07 AM To: cpghost Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Fabian Keil
Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Axel S. Gruner Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:46 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD Logo Am Mittwoch, den 10.05.2006, 02:05 -0700

Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-11 Thread David Stanford
Why, oh why, would you post this? So help me to understand...The FreeBSD Project takes great effort in not only producing a truly _great_ operating system, trademarked as being fast, robust, stable and secure, provides it to the world for _free_, but also takes on the additional chore of

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2006 11:42:17: hi, On 5/9/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended up with such a

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-11 Thread Greg Barniskis
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: To those taking affront at such answers, no one is saying oh, fork you! in some intentionally rude or belittling way (at least, I'm not), they're saying forking (process-wise) to the appropriate forum is the logical thing to do. I take affront to such answers

Re: New FreeBSD Logo (was ACPI / APM Question)

2006-05-11 Thread Graham Bentley
Figure this may get more attention - LOL !!! Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 07:31:50 +0100 From: Graham Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACPI / APM Question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am running 6.0 on a

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Björn König
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC schrieb: And doesn't beastie represent the complete *BSD family, not just FreeBSD? I think so. Björn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:31 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Wow, Ted a top-poster! Why not, no point making everyone reread the entire

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Björn König Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:35 PM To: Lawrence Horvath Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Lawrence Horvath schrieb: I quite like the new logo, i think the new one is far more professional then the old one, though i liked

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Axel S. Gruner
Am Mittwoch, den 10.05.2006, 02:05 -0700 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: My guess is it will be a long, long time before you see CDROMs from anybody that have deleted Beastie and have the sex toy. At LinuxTag 2006 in Wiesbaden we had prepared a lot of CDs with the new Logo (what you call a sex toy?).

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
a good logo). Beastie has his place. Chad Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Björn König Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:35 PM To: Lawrence Horvath Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Lawrence Horvath

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:41 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo That's all well and good, but I for one don't plan to replace

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Kyrre Nygard
At 08:13 10.05.2006, Björn König wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC schrieb: And doesn't beastie represent the complete *BSD family, not just FreeBSD? I think so. Björn Please take this to the advocacy mailinglist. ___

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:05, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:41 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo That's all well

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:58 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo On May 9, 2006, at 11:34 PM, Björn König wrote: Lawrence Horvath schrieb

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kep Woof
hi, On 5/9/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended up with such a terrible logo. It seems people think it's a big joke? The new logo already looks dated,

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread jad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2006 11:42:17: hi, On 5/9/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended up with such a terrible logo. It seems people think

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Beech Rintoul
webmasters agree with me. Beech Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Björn König Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:35 PM To: Lawrence Horvath Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Lawrence Horvath

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 00:18, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Horne Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:23 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo i dont mind saying that i

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Horne Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:23 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo i dont mind saying that i think i must be about the only one who likes the new art. i think

RE: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread fbsd
accountable for their collective actions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:48 AM To: Kep Woof Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread fbsd
As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement of it here. Only after selection of the new logo was made was it talked about on this list. People were very up set with it them and the ground swell over this has only gotten bigger. Loyal long time users are feeling insulted

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Moran
On Tue, 9 May 2006 19:04:49 -0700 jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not offended by the new or the old logo, accept that there seems to be too much of a trend toward cartoon character art. This, I presume is to appeal to the child in us all. But seriously when do we actually get to be

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement of it here. Only after selection of the new logo was made was it talked about on this list. People were very up set with it them and the ground swell over this has only gotten bigger. It was clearly announced with dates and

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kep Woof
Hi, thanks for the pointer.. On 5/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This happened ages ago and was announced in the news section of the website See - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/ However, where were the other designs? I think a contest was potentially a good

RE: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread fbsd
Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement of it here. Only after selection of the new logo was made was it talked about on this list. People were very up set with it them and the ground swell over this has only gotten bigger

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Moran
On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:49:20 + Kep Woof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. It means something. It's neat. It represents the project. What we (the users) seem to have ended up with is a fussy and unelegent logo that has

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread DAve
fbsd wrote: As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement of it here. Only after selection of the new logo was made was it talked about on this list. People were very up set with it them and the ground swell over this has only gotten bigger.

RE: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread fbsd
dont like the new logo then lets make our combined voices make a differance by emailing the new foundation's forming members. -Original Message- From: Nick Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New freebsd logo

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Richard Collyer
fbsd wrote: Thank you for making my point. This should have been announced on all lists. Just not the announcement list. Changing the logo is really a big thing. Yes. But the point of having a announce list is so that important announcements are not jumbled in with lots of where can I

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
Ted The most interesting time I've had with beastie was setting up servers and a website for a Baptist org here in Alaska. I put beastie on the site thinking it would never be approved. They were seeking donations and were very sensitive about the site's image. Not only did the clergy approve

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kep Woof
Hi, On 5/10/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're exactly right. Somebody other than you should take care of this. I'm trying to understand what has happened and why. I'm trying to take care of this, and you, with your accusations and vitriol are'nt helping. I want to understand

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Greg Barniskis
fbsd wrote: The point being it was not announced on the questions list. Non-technical announcements are not in the questions@ charter. The point being the logo affects all the users just not the core committers. And it affects you in exactly the same way as thousands of other choices

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
I'm going to put my 2 cents (or at the current conversion rate, 1 (British) penny!) in here, I think. I consider myself a new FreeBSD user. I have used it before (around 4.8), but never really did much with it. I find that I don't very often dual boot OSes, so I've had nothing but Gentoo on my

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. It means something. It's neat. It represents the project. What we (the users) seem to have ended up with is a fussy and unelegent logo that has nothing to do with anythin, save for a pair of post-modern ice cream cones

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
- From: Nick Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org On Wed, 10 May 2006 08:13:24 -0400 fbsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing that I like for a screensaver? I think it's a bigger problem than that. When was the last time Steve Ballmer responded to a complaint that his shiny

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread jedrek
Hi, However, where were the other designs? I was wondering about that myself... Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. Netbsd logo is very nice indeed. The simple fact is, when you look at the new logo it only makes sense if you previously understand what it

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kyrre Nygard
At 17:42 10.05.2006, Jeff Rollin wrote: Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing that I like for a screensaver? I think it's a bigger problem than that. When was the last time Steve Ballmer

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo Lawrence Horvath schrieb: I quite like the new logo, i think the new one is far more professional then the old one, though i liked them both. I would say that there isn't an old one. Beastie is a little bit older than FreeBSD and I would understand it as mascot

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:49:20PM +, Kep Woof wrote: What are the key values of FreeBSD? I'd guess something like Freedom, Stability, Robustness, quality. The current logo looks like a FAT bloated Beastie that swallowed up too much code... [recently compiled 4.11 and 6.1, and it shows...]

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it yourself. What is the procedure to fix a logo? use send-pr(1), of course! Since we're talking about logos: when will the next time window open for a new try? I humbly suggest

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 13:13, fbsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement of it here. Only after selection of the new logo was made was it talked about on this list People were very up set with it them and the ground swell over this has only gotten

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 15:25, fbsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your negtave comments are foundless. A public vote is not an logistical near-impossibility. Hell just creating a special list to submit an email to as your yes or not vote is a simple solution and other solutions could be found one way or the

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 16:42, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing that I like for a screensaver? I think it's a bigger problem than that. When was the last

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 09:18, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Horne Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:23 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo i dont mind saying

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:03:04AM -0500, Greg Barniskis wrote: No one is belittling the subject, only pointing out that it's both OT and done with. The appearance of the logo on the Web site is not a beginning, it's a finality. questions@ is for general user questions. The sex-toy just

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 15:15, DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pixelhammer.com/aw_jeez.jpg This has gone too far. Searching shows that the FreeBSD questions list had mention of this over a year ago. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-February/076063. html To be

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 18:24, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it yourself. What is the procedure to fix a logo? use send-pr(1), of course! Since we're talking about logos: when will the

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:28:55PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: Many professional logo design people never even knew about the contest to redesign the logo because it was not posted to the questions list where everyone reads. Not everyone reads the questions list. Heck, not even all the

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:40:01PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: On 10/5/06 18:24, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it yourself. What is the procedure to fix a logo? use

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Could we please stop this flood?? -- Pietro Cerutti ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
I for one do not see an need to change the logo at all. That's no reason to tell lies. There's no reason to accuse people of telling lies without having any evidence, either. Can't wait till you get caught out. Jeff. ___

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:51:10PM +, cpghost wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:40:01PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: On 10/5/06 18:24, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:00:49PM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote: I for one do not see an need to change the logo at all. That's no reason to tell lies. There's no reason to accuse people of telling lies without having any evidence, either. Statements were made which are provably untrue.

Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Greg Barniskis
cpghost wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:03:04AM -0500, Greg Barniskis wrote: No one is belittling the subject, only pointing out that it's both OT and done with. The appearance of the logo on the Web site is not a beginning, it's a finality. questions@ is for general user questions. The

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
Since we're talking about logos: when will the next time window open for a new try? I humbly suggest using 'FreeBSD' (the text, Good idea. The word FreeBSD as it stood at the top of the freebsd.orgmainpage the day before the release of 6.1-RELEASE was nice. There were tens of

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Howells
cpghost wrote: Uh-oh! A mindset like this would explain a lot of things. :-( Yes, it explains that some people are too busy to read hundreds of messages on this list, and would rather do something else like coding. ___

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:47:44PM +, cpghost wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:28:55PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: Many professional logo design people never even knew about the contest to redesign the logo because it was not posted to the questions list where everyone reads.

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:33:14PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: Not everyone reads the questions list. Heck, not even all the developers do, due to the low signal/noise ratio here. Uh-oh! A mindset like this would explain a lot of things. :-( Fortunately, there *are* developers here who do

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:04:31PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: On 9/5/06 11:56, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Semi-seriously, www@: how about offering people a chance to individually customize that logo away? It's not really THAT important, but setting up a transparent proxy just to

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread martinko
Ceri Davies wrote: On 9/5/06 15:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so is the font they've started to use since the announcement of FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At Me Too. At first I thought

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