Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread John Hoover

there's always the shells,

bash for example




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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread Tyop?

On 10/6/06, John Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

there's always the shells,

bash for example


asciiquarium is a good start.

*A Must*

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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread Jim Stapleton

On 10/6/06, ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install
on my stand-alone machine.

The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet;
however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two
(2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them.  I would like to select one, two
or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps
and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in
essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if
there is such a thing).



I'm not sure how familiar you are with Unis operating systems or the
various tools available for all of it's incarnations, so, I'm listing
these with info as if you were completely new to it. If you are not, I
do not mean any insult or offense, I just don't know your level of
experience, so I'm going for something relatively low that would give
you a wide range of sights and sounds in the desktop *nix world. If
you aren't /that/ new, just look at my list, and pick and choose your
favorites.

Ideally, you would want to install ports that you could make use of
more than ports that are small. Even the larges ports rarely cause me
issues.

For small starts:
bash - already suggested, very good shell
nano - light weight and useful text editor
pico - like nano, but made before or after, can't remember which
vim - again, already suggested, good text editor, though not to my
taste. It is lightweight and fast, though not to the extent of
pico/nano.
sudoku - I prefer pencil and paper because you can make notes, but it's fun
naim - a console IM program

intermediate projects:
emacs - another popular editor, the largest (in size, not popularity
- don't know what is the most popular) of the bunch, but I know people
who get a lot of work done only starting one program *ever*, this is
that program. It uses a large amount of resources for just a text
editor, but you can do a lot more with it, and on a modern machine,
that large amount is still relatively neglegable.
xorg - an X (graphics) server, which will be extremely useful if you
want more than a console command prompt.
gaim - a multi-im client. quite useful, it could actually be in
small projects, but you need X installed before hand.
gnome - this is between intermediate and larger projects, a good and
popular desktop/session manager, again, not to my taste, for as much
smaller as it is, it runs slower than KDE on my systems. Nonetheless,
a lot of people like it, and you should give it a try.
* - Just about anything in the games directory


Big projects
KDE - like gnome, but more friendly to the people who like gui
configuration, less friendly to those who like text configuration. I
find it faster, but that could be because I have a lot of memory on
all my machines - it's definetly larger. Might be the whole space for
speed tradeoff that you can sometimes do, I don't know. Regardless, be
prepared for a challange, you may not (read: probably won't) be able
to get the full KDE running due to some apps not compiling. Read the
updating file, and you may have to try kde-lite.
openoffice.org-2.0 - a nice office suit, be prepared for a
challange! Now, you may need a few java packages that won't be on the
CDs for this - which you'll have to download elsewhere and put on
either a CD or a flash drive.



Have fun,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:14:29PM -0400, ograbme wrote:

 
 I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install
 on my stand-alone machine.
 
 The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet;
 however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two
 (2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them.  I would like to select one, two
 or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps
 and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in
 essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if
 there is such a thing).

Geez,  what do you want to play with?   Pick anything.
Maybe a couple of simple games would be a good example or maybe
a text editor such as vim.   But, your lack of network connection
makes coming up with suggestions more difficult.

It is no problem if everything is on the CD set.  The problem is that 
so many things have dependancies that may want to go out to the network 
to get something else to build.  I always just have it pull in things 
over the net, so am not sure how much you can get away with for a 
just CD install.  So, it is hard to think of one without trying it 
to make sure everything it needs is on the CDs.

Some simple game such as xmahjongg or dontspace (a Freecell game) might 
work OK and not call in to much else.   A text editor such as vim may 
be OK.  They all require X, but that should be on the CDs.   

jerry

 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
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