Re: OFFTOPIC: HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:53:04 +0300, >> Peter said: P> I wanted to get some feedback about HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200 P> since if they are more silent than supermicro I can go with them. Something else to consider - I have two IBM x3400 boxes running 7.1, but unfortunately I'll have to move to either Red Hat or SUSE Enterprise Linux to get support from IBM. The boxes work fine most of the time, but about every 40-60 days one of them will simply stop working with no dumpfile, error message, or anything else. A power-cycle is needed to reboot. The hardware's been checked, and the firmware's all up to date. I don't know if an x3250 and an x3400 are close enough hardware-wise for this to matter. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Top oxymorons #25: Software documentation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OFFTOPIC: HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200
Tim Judd wrote: > On 7/13/09, Peter wrote: > Building your own box is more likely to support naturally and best > option than HP/IBM/Dell if you want complete customization -- but you > or your company may prefer a commercial support option if things go > awry. > > Good luck. > I can easily build a supermicro box, but they tend to be noisy :-) Another option I think is to get 2U supermicro, which obviously will quieter. However, I wanted to get some feedback about HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200 since if they are more silent than supermicro I can go with them. I already have 2 1 U machine and one of them DELL 1650 seems quite noisy and old :-) so did not want to risk to raise noise level much more. Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OFFTOPIC: HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200
On 7/13/09, Peter wrote: > Hello, > > We are about to buy 1U rack mount server for the office. The server room > is small and close to meeting room so we have two priorities: > > 1)Good FreeBSD support. > 2) Low noise level (!) > > > Speed is not a priority, system load will be small. > > Which one will you recommend ? > > > > HP DL160G5 E5405 2x1GB 2x250GB NHP-SATA CD-DVD Combo 3y > carepack;Quad-Core Intel(R) Xeon(R) processor E5405 (2.00 GHz, 80W, 1333MHz > FSB);Supports up to 64 GB of PC2-5300 (DDR2-667) and up to 32 GB of > PC2-6400 (DDR2-800) fully buffered DIMMs (DDR2-667) with Advanced ECC; > Two embedded NC105i PCIe Gigabit Server Adapters;Five USB ports (two > front, one internal, two rear);650W Power Supply (Non-Hot Plug, > Autoswitching);Rack (1U) > > VS: > > IBM x3250 M2 1 x Xeon Q3330 QuadCore 2.66GHz/1333MHz FSB Hyper > Threading with EM64T, 6MB Cache, 2x1024MB ECC DDR2, 2 x 250 GB SATA/SAS > HDD HotSwap, OpenBay Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) Hot Swap, Integrated > RAID-1, 1x351W, DVD/CD-RW, Dual LAN 10/100/1000, 3 year on-site warranty > > VS: > > DELL(tm) PowerEdge(tm) R200 1 > Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor X3210 2.13 GHz / 1066 MHz FSB / 8 MB > SAS > 6/i Integrated RAID Controller Card for SATA and SAS Hard Drives, > RAID 0,1 > 2GB 800MHz ECC Unbuffered DDR-2 SDRAM > 2 х 250GB, SATA, 3.5-inch, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive (Cabled) > Slim DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive > R200 PCI-E Riser Card (2 x PCI Express slots) > dual embedded Broadcom(R) Gigabit Ethernet NIC > Sliding Rack Kit for Dell Racks (Rapid Rails) > > > Prices are almost the same :-) > > Please recommend. > > Thanks in advance. > > Peter I'd recommend looking at any one of the iXsystems -- who is the organization behind pcbsd. FreeBSD support is practically guaranteed. Building your own box is more likely to support naturally and best option than HP/IBM/Dell if you want complete customization -- but you or your company may prefer a commercial support option if things go awry. Good luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OFFTOPIC: HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200
Peter wrote: Hello, We are about to buy 1U rack mount server for the office. The server room is small and close to meeting room so we have two priorities: 1)Good FreeBSD support. 2) Low noise level (!) Speed is not a priority, system load will be small. Which one will you recommend ? HP DL160G5 E5405 2x1GB 2x250GB NHP-SATA CD-DVD Combo 3y carepack;Quad-Core Intel® Xeon® processor E5405 (2.00 GHz, 80W, 1333MHz FSB);Supports up to 64 GB of PC2-5300 (DDR2-667) and up to 32 GB of PC2-6400 (DDR2-800) fully buffered DIMMs (DDR2-667) with Advanced ECC; Two embedded NC105i PCIe Gigabit Server Adapters;Five USB ports (two front, one internal, two rear);650W Power Supply (Non-Hot Plug, Autoswitching);Rack (1U) VS: IBM x3250 M2 1 x Xeon Q3330 QuadCore 2.66GHz/1333MHz FSB Hyper Threading with EM64T, 6MB Cache, 2x1024MB ECC DDR2, 2 x 250 GB SATA/SAS HDD HotSwap, OpenBay Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) Hot Swap, Integrated RAID-1, 1x351W, DVD/CD-RW, Dual LAN 10/100/1000, 3 year on-site warranty VS: DELL™ PowerEdge™ R200 1 Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor X3210 2.13 GHz / 1066 MHz FSB / 8 MB SAS 6/i Integrated RAID Controller Card for SATA and SAS Hard Drives, RAID 0,1 2GB 800MHz ECC Unbuffered DDR-2 SDRAM 2 х 250GB, SATA, 3.5-inch, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive (Cabled) Slim DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive R200 PCI-E Riser Card (2 x PCI Express slots) dual embedded Broadcom® Gigabit Ethernet NIC Sliding Rack Kit for Dell Racks (Rapid Rails) Prices are almost the same :-) Please recommend. None of the above are going to be particularly quiet I'm afraid. The main noise source in all cases will be the cooling fans, both in the PSUs and the ones blowing air across the CPU heat sinks. They should all have adaptive fan speed controls -- so the fans work harder when the machine gets hotter -- but the distinction in noise levels is between unbearable and merely loud. Now, if compute performance really isn't your limiting factor, then you may be able to get away with a low-wattage processor such as the Intel Atom -- these can be operated fanless with the right sort of case design. The trick is finding a supplier. Tranquil PC (http://www.tranquilpc.co.uk/) is someone I've seen recommended elsewhere on FreeBSD mailing lists, and I believe their systems are generally FreeBSD compatible, but I have no real confirmation that is the case, just some hearsay on mailing lists. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
