Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread DAve
Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:43 AM, DAve wrote:
>> It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
>> domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but name
>> server records. This happens when the root servers refer the query to
>> TLSx.Ultradns.net.
>>
>> I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
>> openoffice.org as well others.
>>
>> Is anyone else seeing this?
> 
> No, but I use dig, not dnsstuff.  Are the missing records visible by:
> 
>   dig slashdot.org @ns1.ostg.com
>   dig openoffice.org @ns1.collab.net

Dig works here as to be expected. Not a problem.

> 
> ...?  I don't see why ultradns.net would be involved...?
> 

Because dnsstuff is the only service where I can see the full path of
the query. Dig does not show me how/where it queries, it simply provides
the answer. I cannot see the output of the +trace command due to my network.

I think it is an ultradns issue because they are the only TLD server
that doesn't return a SOA record. I am thinking, maybe dangerous, that
our client's AD install doesn't handle a query response properly for
that reason.

One look at my DNS logs tells me AD is rarely configured properly.

DAve



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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread Robert Woolley
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:10:49 +0100
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:06 -0500
> DAve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > We just put our replacement DNS servers online, djbdns replacing
> > Bind. In testing with the few domains we have moved to the new
> > servers we began getting intermittent failures for some clients.
> > 
> > It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
> > domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but
> > name server records. This happens when the root servers refer the
> > query to TLSx.Ultradns.net.
> > 
> > I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
> > openoffice.org as well others.
> 
> I don't see what you are getting at here, why would Ultradns return
> A-records for slashdot.org when they don't provide that domains DNS? 

but if you're asking why it doesn't provide A-records for the domain's
nameservers, then presumably it's because the nameservers themselves
are using a different TLD.
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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread RW
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:06 -0500
DAve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We just put our replacement DNS servers online, djbdns replacing Bind.
> In testing with the few domains we have moved to the new servers we
> began getting intermittent failures for some clients.
> 
> It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
> domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but
> name server records. This happens when the root servers refer the
> query to TLSx.Ultradns.net.
> 
> I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
> openoffice.org as well others.

I don't see what you are getting at here, why would Ultradns return
A-records for slashdot.org when they don't provide that domains DNS? 
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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:43 AM, DAve wrote:

It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but  
name

server records. This happens when the root servers refer the query to
TLSx.Ultradns.net.

I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
openoffice.org as well others.

Is anyone else seeing this?


No, but I use dig, not dnsstuff.  Are the missing records visible by:

  dig slashdot.org @ns1.ostg.com
  dig openoffice.org @ns1.collab.net

...?  I don't see why ultradns.net would be involved...?

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