Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 06:12:09PM -0700, Modulok wrote: I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your own server on BSD or Linux is so bloody easy, if you're paranoid about email for archival, privacy, or other reasons, just run your own server. You have

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-08 Thread Colin Brace
Minor but tiresome: no option to use a non-proportional font to view your messages. Apparently, an extension called Better Gmail allowed this at one point but not now. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-08 Thread Modulok
what is wrong with gmail? A few interface annoyances, but perhaps nothing. It depends on what you plan on doing with it. For me it's convenient. It's one less thing I have to worry about. I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your own server on BSD or Linux is so

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar
just because some people use gmail for public mailing lists doesn't mean those same accounts and services are used for their private email. that's an explanation for part of them. but how about seeing an advert in city of small ISP offering it's services, and giving their contact info with

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-07 Thread Jeremy Gransden
On Feb 6, 2008 4:52 PM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can get billions storing everything and closely working with government, and even privates - selling the data raw or processed. of course not officially, but when talking billions of $ such things, or honesty, truth etc.

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:31:26AM -0500, Jeremy Gransden wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 4:52 PM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can get billions storing everything and closely working with government, and even privates - selling the data raw or processed. of course not officially,

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Jeremy Gransden wrote: I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? The privacy policy (or perhaps more accurately the policy indicating your lack of privacy):

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Gerard
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:26:20 -0500 Jeremy Gransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? There are several glaring deficiencies with gmail. Just for starters, unless it

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? think other way. imagine you have service with 5000 mail account. would it be worth for you of extra work of writing all user data, analyzing it,

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? The privacy policy (or perhaps more accurately the policy indicating your lack of privacy): http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en/privacy.html i

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Chess Griffin
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? The privacy policy (or perhaps more accurately the policy indicating your lack of privacy):

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Feb 6, 2008 1:42 PM, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:26:20 -0500 Jeremy Gransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? There are several

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i would rather not narrow the problem to google or gmail, but to any THAT BIG service provider. simply avoid huge ones as they are too powerful. Which is why I like to use Tuffmail.com. They are not free, but provide excellent service and features for a mail provider. Plus, they run

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
2008/2/6, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i would rather not narrow the problem to google or gmail, but to any THAT BIG service provider. simply avoid huge ones as they are too powerful. Which is why I like to use Tuffmail.com. They are not free, but provide excellent service

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? think other way. imagine you have service with 5000 mail account. would it be worth for you of extra work of writing all

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Brian
Jeremy Gransden wrote: Hello List, I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? thanks, Jeremy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
so stay away from ANY services that large. not just gmail, not just mail services at all. Someone's over-paranoid in here... spy satellites, providers selling sensitive data, neighbors staring at your wife undressing while you're at work... who cares? no need to spy satellites today :) just

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:44:35 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is most strange are FreeBSD admins from that list , many of them really good, unable to just create e-mails for themselves on one of their servers, but using gmail. just because some people use gmail for

Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?

2008-02-06 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:08:51 -0800 Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can think of several others - yet I use gmail, because it's so convenient. Some of this can be mitigated by using a POP3/IMAP client instead of the web interface. 1) can't put a graphic in-line with text 2) forwards