Re: OT: xterm setup
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:51:21AM +0200, Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) there's no menubar with basic File/Edit etc. options. Sounds like the gnome terminal or eterm. The standard xterm doesn't give you a menubar. Thanks for this and to others who replied. I've been so confused by this that I dropped by the office to take a look at my Linux (RH 7.3) box, only to discover that yes, I had been running gnome-terminal there. I've looked at the various options and decided that eterm looks best and is easiest to get to the way I want, so I'm going with that for now. Thanks for the various suggestions. Best, Jesse Sheidlower ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: xterm setup
In the last episode (Aug 31), Jesse Sheidlower said: I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) there's no menubar with basic File/Edit etc. options. I can somewhat get around (1) by launching it with xterm -r, although while this does display white/colored on black, it also makes other menus (e.g. those launched with ctrl-[mouse buttons]) look incomplete. But (2) is the worst; I really need to have scrollbars with this. I see that there's a toggleable option to Enable Scrollbar that I get to with ctrl-Mouse2, but this isn't a regular scrollbar that I can click up and down on, with a moveable thumb, etc., as I used to have before the upgrade and as the gnome-terminal has now. You must not have been using xterm before, then, since I don't believe you can have any scrollbar other than the standard X-style (RMB scrolls up, LMB scrolls down) bar, and it does not come with a menubar either. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: xterm setup
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:24:41AM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Aug 31), Jesse Sheidlower said: I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) there's no menubar with basic File/Edit etc. options. I can somewhat get around (1) by launching it with xterm -r, although while this does display white/colored on black, it also makes other menus (e.g. those launched with ctrl-[mouse buttons]) look incomplete. But (2) is the worst; I really need to have scrollbars with this. I see that there's a toggleable option to Enable Scrollbar that I get to with ctrl-Mouse2, but this isn't a regular scrollbar that I can click up and down on, with a moveable thumb, etc., as I used to have before the upgrade and as the gnome-terminal has now. You must not have been using xterm before, then, since I don't believe you can have any scrollbar other than the standard X-style (RMB scrolls up, LMB scrolls down) bar, and it does not come with a menubar either. Hmm. I certainly thought I was using xterm, as I recall setting up the icon to launch xterm, and my .bashrc is setting TERM to xterm-color rather than gnome-terminal or anything else. And I'm rather sure that I have the exact same setup on my Linux box, which is in the office and thus unavailable for me to look at right now. It's also the case that the font displaying with xterm now looks totally familiar, and the one displaying with gnome-terminal is totally unfamiliar and ugly. Is it possible that the functional scrollbars, etc., were an addition of the window manager, and if so is there any way to replicate it now? Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: xterm setup
In the last episode (Aug 31), Jesse Sheidlower said: Hmm. I certainly thought I was using xterm, as I recall setting up the icon to launch xterm, and my .bashrc is setting TERM to xterm-color rather than gnome-terminal or anything else. And I'm rather sure that I have the exact same setup on my Linux box, which is in the office and thus unavailable for me to look at right now. It's also the case that the font displaying with xterm now looks totally familiar, and the one displaying with gnome-terminal is totally unfamiliar and ugly. Is it possible that the functional scrollbars, etc., were an addition of the window manager, and if so is there any way to replicate it now? Very unlikely. The window manager has no idea what is inside the rectangle it's managing, so the only useful menuitem it could put up would be close -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: xterm setup
Try eTerm, gnome seems to like it and it is very like the program whose features you need. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Sunday 31 August 2003 01:52, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Aug 31), Jesse Sheidlower said: Hmm. I certainly thought I was using xterm, as I recall setting up the icon to launch xterm, and my .bashrc is setting TERM to xterm-color rather than gnome-terminal or anything else. And I'm rather sure that I have the exact same setup on my Linux box, which is in the office and thus unavailable for me to look at right now. It's also the case that the font displaying with xterm now looks totally familiar, and the one displaying with gnome-terminal is totally unfamiliar and ugly. Is it possible that the functional scrollbars, etc., were an addition of the window manager, and if so is there any way to replicate it now? Very unlikely. The window manager has no idea what is inside the rectangle it's managing, so the only useful menuitem it could put up would be close ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: xterm setup
Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) there's no menubar with basic File/Edit etc. options. Sounds like the gnome terminal or eterm. The standard xterm doesn't give you a menubar. I can somewhat get around (1) by launching it with xterm -r, although while this does display white/colored on black, it also makes other menus (e.g. those launched with ctrl-[mouse buttons]) look incomplete. You can set up .Xresources to change the behaviour of all xterms: XTerm*reverseVideo: true XTerm*ScrollBar:off XTerm*SaveLines:300 But (2) is the worst; I really need to have scrollbars with this. I see that there's a toggleable option to Enable Scrollbar that I get to with ctrl-Mouse2, but this isn't a regular scrollbar that I can click up and down on, with a moveable thumb, etc., as I used to have before the upgrade and as the gnome-terminal has now. Also: XTerm*ScrollBar:off XTerm*SaveLines:300 and 'xterm -sb' Hmm. I certainly thought I was using xterm, as I recall setting up the icon to launch xterm, and my .bashrc is setting TERM to xterm-color rather than gnome-terminal or anything else. TERM states the capabilities of the terminal. Since most terminals implements the same feature set for input as xterm does, they use the same entry in termcap. Is it possible that the functional scrollbars, etc., were an addition of the window manager, and if so is there any way to replicate it now? Use eterm or any other clone. Hendrik ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]