Re: Opinion request about a file server
If you want to use gmirror + gjournal on the root filesystem (/), be sure to use FreeBSD 7.2. A bug prevented the system to boot on unclean shutdown because the replay of the journal took too much time and FreeBSD wanted to mount non-existant (yet) devices. It caused me a lot of trouble when I installed my server and finally I had to leave the root filesystem without gjournal as a workaround. Gabriel 2009/6/8 Valentin Bud : > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, DA Forsyth wrote: > >> > I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: >> > http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ >> >> Nice, esp when you compile world. Last year I upgraded our server >> to a Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, Intel DG965 board. 2GB RAM. Previous board >> was an ASUS P3 1.1GHz, which now hosts my backup server. Both ran >> FreeBSD file/print/email/web services perfectly. I upgraded to get >> the onboard SATA sockets so I could increase our available disk space >> (4x500GB in RAID5 for data). >> >> However, a nice benefit is that the Core2 will compile world in 1/4 >> the time, and user don't notice the server is 'busy'. >> >> SO, to the original question, yes that motherboard will work just >> fine. What are you doing for system backups? A single drive is not >> enough. I recommend a mirror pair at least, and suggest a second box >> for backups. > > > > Hello community, > > Thanks everybody for their thoughts. After reading your posts and some > articles over the > weekend I will take the gmirror(8) + gjournal(8) road. > > The backups will be done offsite because the company which I'm doing this > for > is a friend of my boss and we do have a lot of spare space or our servers. > > thanks once again, > v > > > > -- > network warrior since 2005 > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- Gabriel Lavoie glav...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On 8 Jun 2009 , freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org entreated about "freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 262, Issue 2": > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:18:09 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > > SO, to the original question, yes that motherboard will work just > > fine. What are you doing for system backups? A single drive is not > > enough. I recommend a mirror pair at least, and suggest a second box > > why? it's a backup system not main system. >From his original it seemd he would be using a single drive for the system and a mirror pair for data. Seems I got it wrong and the single drive will be for 'some other purpose'. Fine, but all the more reason to back it up. A backup server is not the place to avoid data security. From personal experience I can tell you that life is hell when your backup drives are needed but don't work. My backup server has a mirror pair for the data, and that gets copied to an external drive which lives off site. And I'm not sure I've got enough backups yet (-: -- DA Fo rsythNetwork Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, DA Forsyth wrote: > > I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: > > http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ > > Nice, esp when you compile world. Last year I upgraded our server > to a Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, Intel DG965 board. 2GB RAM. Previous board > was an ASUS P3 1.1GHz, which now hosts my backup server. Both ran > FreeBSD file/print/email/web services perfectly. I upgraded to get > the onboard SATA sockets so I could increase our available disk space > (4x500GB in RAID5 for data). > > However, a nice benefit is that the Core2 will compile world in 1/4 > the time, and user don't notice the server is 'busy'. > > SO, to the original question, yes that motherboard will work just > fine. What are you doing for system backups? A single drive is not > enough. I recommend a mirror pair at least, and suggest a second box > for backups. The system will have 2x1TB HDD in mirroring and 500 GB HDD for another use requested by the client. v -- network warrior since 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, DA Forsyth wrote: > > I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: > > http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ > > Nice, esp when you compile world. Last year I upgraded our server > to a Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, Intel DG965 board. 2GB RAM. Previous board > was an ASUS P3 1.1GHz, which now hosts my backup server. Both ran > FreeBSD file/print/email/web services perfectly. I upgraded to get > the onboard SATA sockets so I could increase our available disk space > (4x500GB in RAID5 for data). > > However, a nice benefit is that the Core2 will compile world in 1/4 > the time, and user don't notice the server is 'busy'. > > SO, to the original question, yes that motherboard will work just > fine. What are you doing for system backups? A single drive is not > enough. I recommend a mirror pair at least, and suggest a second box > for backups. Hello community, Thanks everybody for their thoughts. After reading your posts and some articles over the weekend I will take the gmirror(8) + gjournal(8) road. The backups will be done offsite because the company which I'm doing this for is a friend of my boss and we do have a lot of spare space or our servers. thanks once again, v -- network warrior since 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
the onboard SATA sockets so I could increase our available disk space (4x500GB in RAID5 for data). However, a nice benefit is that the Core2 will compile world in 1/4 the time, and user don't notice the server is 'busy'. Core2 is actually only a bit faster per clock cycle than PIII, but you have 2 processors (cores) and much more cache and faster memory... SO, to the original question, yes that motherboard will work just fine. What are you doing for system backups? A single drive is not enough. I recommend a mirror pair at least, and suggest a second box why? it's a backup system not main system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
> I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: > http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ Nice, esp when you compile world. Last year I upgraded our server to a Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, Intel DG965 board. 2GB RAM. Previous board was an ASUS P3 1.1GHz, which now hosts my backup server. Both ran FreeBSD file/print/email/web services perfectly. I upgraded to get the onboard SATA sockets so I could increase our available disk space (4x500GB in RAID5 for data). However, a nice benefit is that the Core2 will compile world in 1/4 the time, and user don't notice the server is 'busy'. SO, to the original question, yes that motherboard will work just fine. What are you doing for system backups? A single drive is not enough. I recommend a mirror pair at least, and suggest a second box for backups. -- DA Fo rsythNetwork Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
2009/6/6 Wojciech Puchar : >> Not counting the CPU and its power circuitry, I would be very suprised if >> the other components on a normal motherboard pulled as much as half of >> that >> even when under load. >> >> In fact a typical modern desktop computer will, when idle, draw less than >> 100W for the whole system. It is not even difficult to put together a >> system that will stay under 100W even when under load. >> > but power supplies are not really efficient when used at small load. > maybe some newer are better... > Mine has a 250W PSU in it, and draws around 45W (measured with a power meter)... In the UK it thus costs ~£45 (US$70) per year, at the current E.O.N. rate. Not too expensive! Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 01:31:16AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Not counting the CPU and its power circuitry, I would be very suprised if > > the other components on a normal motherboard pulled as much as half of that > > even when under load. > > > > In fact a typical modern desktop computer will, when idle, draw less than > > 100W for the whole system. It is not even difficult to put together a > > system that will stay under 100W even when under load. > > > but power supplies are not really efficient when used at small load. > maybe some newer are better... It is true that most PSUs have their highest efficiency at about half their maximum load and that this efficiency tends to drop very noticeably at very low loads. The efficency of high-quality PSUs has improved quite a bit over the last couple of years though, to the extent that a modern high-quality PSU running at a low load will still have higher efficiency than an ordinary 5-year old PSU had at its best. Be that as it may, when I was talking about the power draw of the whole system, I meant the whole system, including PSU, so any power losses in the PSU are included in the 100W mentioned. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Not counting the CPU and its power circuitry, I would be very suprised if the other components on a normal motherboard pulled as much as half of that even when under load. In fact a typical modern desktop computer will, when idle, draw less than 100W for the whole system. It is not even difficult to put together a system that will stay under 100W even when under load. but power supplies are not really efficient when used at small load. maybe some newer are better... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:43:23AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a > > normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny > > thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed > > to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST enabled. This power draw > > unless CPU are constantly loaded it takes minor part of power. maybe your > CPU takes 4W, but other chips on motherboard takes MUCH more. A bit more perphaps, but not MUCH more. The main chipset itself will almost certainly not draw more than 20-25W when working. Less when idle. (If it is a chipset with integrated graphics you can add a few watts to that, but probably not much more than that.) Modern RAM-memory will draw perhaps 1-3W per DIMM, depending on size and technology. The remaing chips does not draw much. (After all they don't generate enough heat to require heatsinks.) The only really power hungry component in a modern system apart from the CPU is the graphic card - and that only when using the more high-end models. > > it would be good to measure it with electricity meter :) i bet close to > 100W Not counting the CPU and its power circuitry, I would be very suprised if the other components on a normal motherboard pulled as much as half of that even when under load. In fact a typical modern desktop computer will, when idle, draw less than 100W for the whole system. It is not even difficult to put together a system that will stay under 100W even when under load. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST enabled. This power draw unless CPU are constantly loaded it takes minor part of power. maybe your CPU takes 4W, but other chips on motherboard takes MUCH more. it would be good to measure it with electricity meter :) i bet close to 100W ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On 6/5/09, Gabriel Lavoie wrote: > Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a > normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny > thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed > to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST enabled. This power draw > on Intel 45nm CPUs had been tested with a Core 2 Quad! What I can say > is that this server uses a lot less power than the Pentium II (dual > CPU) it replaced and it's much more powerful. It really made a > difference in my electricity bill. > > 2009/6/5 Chris Rees : >> 2009/6/5 Gabriel Lavoie : >>> I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: >>> >>> http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ >>> >> >> What a waste... How much power does that chug?? >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> A: Top-posting. >> Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? >> > And my ALIX based boards with 1" microdrives run just as well as a router, plus I got a CVS mirror on it, NFS server, and I will be adding webserver and maybe mail to it too. They're not GHz machines, but for a routing platform, how often do you even hit 200MHz? The 500MHz ALIX board is doing beautifully for me. silent, too. Have a good weekend, all. --TJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST enabled. This power draw on Intel 45nm CPUs had been tested with a Core 2 Quad! What I can say is that this server uses a lot less power than the Pentium II (dual CPU) it replaced and it's much more powerful. It really made a difference in my electricity bill. 2009/6/5 Chris Rees : > 2009/6/5 Gabriel Lavoie : >> I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: >> >> http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ >> > > What a waste... How much power does that chug?? > > Chris > > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? > -- Gabriel Lavoie glav...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
2009/6/5 Gabriel Lavoie : > I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: > > http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ > What a waste... How much power does that chug?? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ 2009/6/5 Valentin Bud : > Hello community, > > I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > > I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration > and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server > using samba. > > What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in > mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server > will be > used by 4 people for storage of all sorts of files that can be found in > Design and daily > Office World (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc, Word Documents, etc). > > Thank you, > v > -- > network warrior since 2005 > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- Gabriel Lavoie glav...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. Not really. But considering how everyone is buying Core Duos and quads these days, you can get decent P4s for free. could you please tell me where i can get P4 machine for free? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Sorry - it wasn't really intended that way. Please note that "slightly downlevel..." was meant to refer to a combination of older Netburst architecture and consumer retail motherboard. The Core Xeons that replaced the old Netburst processors are much better performers. In a true datacenter server environment wrt file serving it is indeed. pentium IV in average usage (contrary to special cases like video encoding) are even 40% slower per clock cycle than pentium III. new core2duo are mostly improved pentium III with higher clock and more cache :) better to spend money on I/O rather than CPU. A server motherboard (as opposed to consumer retail) will have better I/O subsystems, enabling better throughput. indeed. in most unix usage patterns it's more important than CPU speed. with proper configuration it rarely swaps, and can easily saturate 100Mbit/s LAN, just not with single transfer, but it's not hardware problem, but windows problem :) At some point (when I went to a DSL broadband connection) I replaced the above box with a K-6 II 500MHz with 384MB RAM. Same collection of multiple somehow comparable to my config with sligtly slower CPU, would perform similar in my case. services. This box was previously utilized for beta testing Windows NT 3.5, 3.51, and NT 4. So I was able to make a direct comparison between running Windows NT and FreeBSD on the exact same piece of hardware. FreeBSD simply there is no sense of any comparision ;) just made better use of the hardware and outperformed NT. In order to match what FreeBSD was capable of NT would require a more powerful hardware platform. No. it can't do most things that unix is capable of, unless you install cygwin ;) will work just fine for what he and his 4 users have in mind for their needs. I believe the performance characteristics of FreeBSD will maximize his return on CPU cycles. my home laptop (PIII-M/1133) is rarely limited by CPU power. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you >> performance on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't >> touch. >> > is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. Sorry - it wasn't really intended that way. Please note that "slightly downlevel..." was meant to refer to a combination of older Netburst architecture and consumer retail motherboard. The Core Xeons that replaced the old Netburst processors are much better performers. In a true datacenter server environment wrt file serving it is better to spend money on I/O rather than CPU. A server motherboard (as opposed to consumer retail) will have better I/O subsystems, enabling better throughput. > i made all-need server for small office (8 people) using PIII/500 and 384 > MB RAM. i charged them only for configuration and new harddrive, server is > for free :) > > it runs mail server (including spamassassin, and dovecot), file and print > server (samba), asterisk VoIP software, squid proxy and www server. Reminds me of my very first FreeBSD server box. It was a Pentium 75MHz that I had overclocked up to 100MHz. I used it on my then dial up connection as a gateway/firewall and pretty much the collection of services you described. With a user load of one (me) it did just fine. > with proper configuration it rarely swaps, and can easily saturate > 100Mbit/s LAN, just not with single transfer, but it's not hardware > problem, but windows problem :) At some point (when I went to a DSL broadband connection) I replaced the above box with a K-6 II 500MHz with 384MB RAM. Same collection of multiple services. This box was previously utilized for beta testing Windows NT 3.5, 3.51, and NT 4. So I was able to make a direct comparison between running Windows NT and FreeBSD on the exact same piece of hardware. FreeBSD simply just made better use of the hardware and outperformed NT. In order to match what FreeBSD was capable of NT would require a more powerful hardware platform. It still remains that, in spite of the OP using a consumer retail motherboard and not a true server component his FreeBSD/Samba arrangement will work just fine for what he and his 4 users have in mind for their needs. I believe the performance characteristics of FreeBSD will maximize his return on CPU cycles. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you >> performance >> on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't touch. >> > is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. > > Not really. But considering how everyone is buying Core Duos and quads these days, you can get decent P4s for free. Not that I complain about it ;) Got three of them running and have donated few more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you performance on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't touch. is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. i made all-need server for small office (8 people) using PIII/500 and 384 MB RAM. i charged them only for configuration and new harddrive, server is for free :) it runs mail server (including spamassassin, and dovecot), file and print server (samba), asterisk VoIP software, squid proxy and www server. with proper configuration it rarely swaps, and can easily saturate 100Mbit/s LAN, just not with single transfer, but it's not hardware problem, but windows problem :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > > I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration > and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server > using samba. > > What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB > in > mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The > server > will be > used by 4 people for storage of all sorts of files that can be found in > Design and daily > Office World (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc, Word Documents, etc). > > Thank you, > v The short answer is yes - this will be fine for what you need. This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you performance on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't touch. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
10 times more power than needed. disks speed is the only limit I have a P-II at 400 MHz running as a file server. See about 5 MB/sec on it depends from both sides ability, but pentium 100 with SDRAM memory can saturate 100Mbit/s network running FreeBSD 6.2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:16:49PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in > >mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > > >So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server > > 10 times more power than needed. disks speed is the only limit I have a P-II at 400 MHz running as a file server. See about 5 MB/sec on most file transfers. Has one of the original 15GB IBM Deskstar drives, and a much slower 6 GB WD drive. Both on ATA16 interfaces. I suspect network speed will determine the limits. A modern SATA drive should be sequentially read or write at at least 80 MB/sec. while a 100M bit/sec ethernet will be limited to 11 MB/sec. Latency of disk drive and network are usually the limiting factors, not server CPU. With gigabit ethernet one could reasonably expect to see 25MB/sec file rates. Depends a lot as to how big the file, the bigger the faster. Used smartctl just now to check, the Deskstar drive has 50331 hours of run time, 5.7 years. Has only been power cycled 72 times. Run time seems low as I have almost never turned this drive off since 2000. The WD drive claims to have 1418293 hours of uptime. Know that is not right. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
2009/6/5 Valentin Bud : > Hello community, > > I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > > I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration > and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server > using samba. > > What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in > mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server > will be > used by 4 people for storage of all sorts of files that can be found in > Design and daily > Office World (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc, Word Documents, etc). > > Thank you, > v > -- > network warrior since 2005 Wow! You have a powerhouse. I'm using this: http://www.bayofrum.net/phpsysinfo for *everything*; web server, mail server, file server, the odd bittorrent (usually for ubuntu, I don't touch warez :P), and even run a Left 4 Dead server on it from time to time... Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. this is not old - very powerfull machine. I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar configuration and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server using samba. what a problem? much more than needed. What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server 10 times more power than needed. disks speed is the only limit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > > I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration > and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server > using samba. > > What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in > mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server > will be > used by 4 people for storage of all sorts of files that can be found in > Design and daily > Office World (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc, Word Documents, etc). > > Thank you, > v > Got more than a few of similar systems, and have setup one very similar to this for a friend, primarily used as a Samba server: Pentium 4 2.8Ghz, (socket 478), 2GB RAM Two mirrors (1 Tb total capacity, 4X500Gb drives), using gmirror and gjournal Gigabit Ethernet He stores very large files (he is an avid photographer). Needless to say it works without problems and performance is very good. So, I'd say you can go ahead with your plan. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Opinion request about a file server
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 03:57:21PM +0300, Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > > I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server > and Print Server using samba. > > What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of > 1TB in mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The > server will be used by 4 people for storage of all sorts of files that > can be found in Design and daily Office World (Photoshop, Illustrator, > etc, Word Documents, etc). I think its gross overkill for that very light load. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
