Re: Partitioning with gpart
from Lynn Steven Killingsworth blue.seahorse.syndic...@gmail.com: I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on an mbr partition. I thought I would format the mbr disk with zfs and move everything from the ufs disk and then format the ufs disk with zfs. I have not tried the command line before so I just tried to create over the disk with: gpart create -s gpt ada2 The message is that ada2 already exists as a file system. Show indicates that it is not gpt but mbr. Then in order to start over I tried to delete and destroy by starting with: gpart delete -i 1 ada2s1 The message is that ada2s1 is an invalid argument. I cannot experiment on my backup as it has only one disk. Comment please? Either gpt (included in FreeBSD prior to the switch to gpart) or gdisk (now at v0.8.5 and in FreeBSD ports) can migrate an MBR-partitioned disk to GPT without loss of data in many cases, though backing up is still advised. You can find information about gdisk at http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ gdisk is much more versatile than gpart, can be used to make partitions for Windows, Linux, NetBSD, etc. I don't think you can get gpt for FreeBSD, but if you're curious, you can go to http://www.netbsd.org/ and look for the documentation/man pages. It was gpt in NetBSD that I used to migrate an NTFS partition (MBR) spanning an entire 3 TB Western Digital My Book USB 3.0 hard drive to GPT, no data was lost. I subsequently booted Linux from the System Rescue CD (http://sysresccd.org/) and copied the software/data to a USB stick so I could free the USB 3.0 hard drive for better things. Maybe I could have done the repartitioning with gdisk, which is included on the System Rescue CD, this would be Linux. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:33:16 -0400, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on an mbr partition. I thought I would format the mbr disk with zfs and move everything from the ufs disk and then format the ufs disk with zfs. I have not tried the command line before so I just tried to create over the disk with: gpart create -s gpt ada2 The message is that ada2 already exists as a file system. The exact message would help; gpart is not a filesystem tool. Show indicates that it is not gpt but mbr. Then in order to start over I tried to delete and destroy by starting with: gpart delete -i 1 ada2s1 The message is that ada2s1 is an invalid argument. I cannot experiment on my backup as it has only one disk. gpart takes a -F option to destroy which makes it unnecessary to delete all the partitions first. Back up data first, and make certain that you and the computer agree on which drive is which. Great. My storage disks are formatted with zfs and my files are moved. Thanks. -- Steve Blue Seahorse Syndicate http://www.blueleafsyndicate.org Maine New Hampshire Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on an mbr partition. I thought I would format the mbr disk with zfs and move everything from the ufs disk and then format the ufs disk with zfs. I have not tried the command line before so I just tried to create over the disk with: gpart create -s gpt ada2 The message is that ada2 already exists as a file system. The exact message would help; gpart is not a filesystem tool. Show indicates that it is not gpt but mbr. Then in order to start over I tried to delete and destroy by starting with: gpart delete -i 1 ada2s1 The message is that ada2s1 is an invalid argument. I cannot experiment on my backup as it has only one disk. gpart takes a -F option to destroy which makes it unnecessary to delete all the partitions first. Back up data first, and make certain that you and the computer agree on which drive is which. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: How do I wipe the whole thing in one go so that I can start afresh? gpart destroy ad4 ?? Yes, but first you must delete all of the slices/partitions. Think of it this way: you must go backwards down the path you just came with a delete for each add, then a destroy for each create. So there is no way to just say clean up this whole disk in a single operation? That seems a considerable step backwards, given that the old tools have fdisk -i and bsdlabel -w. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:35 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: How do I wipe the whole thing in one go so that I can start afresh? gpart destroy ad4 ?? Yes, but first you must delete all of the slices/partitions. Think of it this way: you must go backwards down the path you just came with a delete for each add, then a destroy for each create. So there is no way to just say clean up this whole disk in a single operation? That seems a considerable step backwards, given that the old tools have fdisk -i and bsdlabel -w. I've never had to use it, but I think gpart destroy -F ad4 is what you are looking for, so I guess it is not necessary to step backwards after all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On 5/6/11 7:03 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 You need to install the bootcode: This will install the interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/boot0 ad4 this will install the non-interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/mbr ad4 Thanks Warren, great article, and thanks all for the follow up posts as well. Just one more question, the usual mbr and boot files will boot a gpt partition? I see there are some additional files gptboot and pmbr? Thanks, Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: There's a sample in the second half of my disk setup article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Looks good. I have a few critiques: 1) Linux and FreeBSD do not have alignment requirements, as far as I know. So you may want to include a note about this when you say Create partition for /. It should start at the 1M boundary for alignment on 4K sector drives, or 2048 blocks: This would only be necessary for dual-boot with an OS that has alignment requirements such as windows. This would essentially be the difference between the two old methods of dedicated and not. The 1M size is compatible with Windows and aligns partitions for better performance on 4K sector drives. Doesn't affect performance on 512-byte sector drives, easier to set up initially than add later, and costs less than 1M of space. Cheap compatibility insurance, I guess I'm saying. 2) Perhaps add a note about softupdates (-U) for partitions other than / when you describe the newfs steps. Yikes, yes. I think your article would be a good place to start for making an updated section in the handbook. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: - or any problems (problems as in I've never tried that before) - using gpart instead of the old scheme? Sorry for the double post, but the only problem that I've encountered is after creating a encrypted provider with geli(8), that provider cannot be partitioned using the GPT scheme. You can still partition it using gpart(8), but the scheme must be BSD or MBR. I am not sure whether this is a bug or just the way GPT partitions work, but it is not that big of a problem unless you want to have very large encrypted providers that are GPT scheme partitions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: I just realized how many years ago I haven't been partitioning any disks .. this system is so stable :) So, now I see I have gpart as alternative to fdisk/bsdlabel. gpart(8) from my experience is far superior to all the older tools. I have a 320GB disk which will be dedicated to FBSD, is there any advantage - or any problems (problems as in I've never tried that before) - using gpart instead of the old scheme? It is clean and clear as to what you are doing, and it supports GPT scheme partitions. Do I need kernel modules not in the generic kernel or create extra boot partition? If you use it to make GPT partitions, you will need a freebsd-boot partition with the proper bootcode for what you want to do. If you search this mailing list's archive, I've posted basic instructions for gpart/GPT partitioning recently, perhaps there needs to be a section added to Handbook 18.3.2 describing the basics. Unfortunately, the only mention in the handbook is a link to the man page in section 18.3. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: Do I need kernel modules not in the generic kernel or create extra boot partition? If you use it to make GPT partitions, you will need a freebsd-boot partition with the proper bootcode for what you want to do. If you search this mailing list's archive, I've posted basic instructions for gpart/GPT partitioning recently, perhaps there needs to be a section added to Handbook 18.3.2 describing the basics. Unfortunately, the only mention in the handbook is a link to the man page in section 18.3. There's a sample in the second half of my disk setup article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: There's a sample in the second half of my disk setup article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Looks good. I have a few critiques: 1) Linux and FreeBSD do not have alignment requirements, as far as I know. So you may want to include a note about this when you say Create partition for /. It should start at the 1M boundary for alignment on 4K sector drives, or 2048 blocks: This would only be necessary for dual-boot with an OS that has alignment requirements such as windows. This would essentially be the difference between the two old methods of dedicated and not. 2) Perhaps add a note about softupdates (-U) for partitions other than / when you describe the newfs steps. 3) I like to put /root in its own partition on the off chance that it fills up. That way it's in a little sandbox and does not fill /. But this is personal preference, I guess. I think your article would be a good place to start for making an updated section in the handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
El día Saturday, June 04, 2011 a las 08:43:37PM -0600, Warren Block escribió: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: Do I need kernel modules not in the generic kernel or create extra boot partition? If you use it to make GPT partitions, you will need a freebsd-boot partition with the proper bootcode for what you want to do. If you search this mailing list's archive, I've posted basic instructions for gpart/GPT partitioning recently, perhaps there needs to be a section added to Handbook 18.3.2 describing the basics. Unfortunately, the only mention in the handbook is a link to the man page in section 18.3. There's a sample in the second half of my disk setup article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 But the result is not ready for boot after install the kernel and system; I allways have to go again with the sysinstall(8) tool to set the 'A' flag; don't know what I'm missing (and the man page is not very instructive on this); thanks PS: next time will try the example of your page, Warren; thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 06:40:22 +0200, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 Just a side question that may be interesting for addition in a new Handbook section: When you use the old method, you can leave out the slicing step, creating a dangerously (haha) dedicated disk for use with FreeBSD. Would this also work with gpart by omitting the gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 step and then refering to ad4 instead of ad4s1 in the gpart add -t freebsd-ufs/swap steps? But the result is not ready for boot after install the kernel and system; I allways have to go again with the sysinstall(8) tool to set the 'A' flag; don't know what I'm missing (and the man page is not very instructive on this); thanks I agree about the manpage; gpart set -a attrib -i index [-f flags] geom is mentioned in the synopsis, but there's no further mentioning of the -a option and its parameters. Maybe (haven't tested!) gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4s1 is equivalent to setting the A flag using sysinstall? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 But the result is not ready for boot after install the kernel and system; I allways have to go again with the sysinstall(8) tool to set the 'A' flag; don't know what I'm missing (and the man page is not very instructive on this); thanks You need to install the bootcode: This will install the interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/boot0 ad4 this will install the non-interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/mbr ad4 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:59:44 AM Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 06:40:22 +0200, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 Just a side question that may be interesting for addition in a new Handbook section: When you use the old method, you can leave out the slicing step, creating a dangerously (haha) dedicated disk for use with FreeBSD. Would this also work with gpart by omitting the gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 step and then refering to ad4 instead of ad4s1 in the gpart add -t freebsd-ufs/swap steps? Yes, that would be the equivalent, but if you do that, you might as well use GPT. The reason you would want to use MBR is to dual boot with another OS that only understands MBR. If you are using certain newer 64bit versions of Windows, they understand GPT boot, so the whole BSD inside MBR vs. BSD dedicated is becoming moot in my opinion. A good reference if you must dual boot is: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525 Also, at the bottom of this page is a list of OSs and GPT support: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table But the result is not ready for boot after install the kernel and system; I allways have to go again with the sysinstall(8) tool to set the 'A' flag; don't know what I'm missing (and the man page is not very instructive on this); thanks I agree about the manpage; gpart set -a attrib -i index [-f flags] geom is mentioned in the synopsis, but there's no further mentioning of the -a option and its parameters. Maybe (haven't tested!) gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4s1 is equivalent to setting the A flag using sysinstall? After reexamining the man page I think I see where it could be made more clear. The Examples section at the bottom should be changed into sections, one for MBR with BSD inside, one for BSD dedicated, one for GPT, and one for VTOC8. Or at minimum add that you _must_ install bootcode if you wish to boot from the disk. From the confusion above it seems that people think that gpart create -s GPT ad0 installs the bootcode, which it does not (replace the GPT in my example with MBR, BSD etc). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 08:03, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 But the result is not ready for boot after install the kernel and system; I allways have to go again with the sysinstall(8) tool to set the 'A' flag; don't know what I'm missing (and the man page is not very instructive on this); thanks You need to install the bootcode: This will install the interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/boot0 ad4 this will install the non-interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/mbr ad4 This is interesting and here is my question: Taking the above example from Matthias, assume that I have done everything including installing the bootcode, then I realize I am not happy with the scheme and I need to change. How do I wipe the whole thing in one go so that I can start afresh? gpart destroy ad4 ?? Why is there no sysinstall-style GUI for gpart? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 08:03, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4 # Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a BSD scheme # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for / # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for swap # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G ad4s1 # 2GB for /var # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G ad4s1 # 1GB for /tmp # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 # all rest for /usr # gpart set -a active -i 1 ad4 But the result is not ready for boot after install the kernel and system; I allways have to go again with the sysinstall(8) tool to set the 'A' flag; don't know what I'm missing (and the man page is not very instructive on this); thanks You need to install the bootcode: This will install the interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/boot0 ad4 this will install the non-interactive one: gpart bootcode -b /mnt2/boot/mbr ad4 This is interesting and here is my question: Taking the above example from Matthias, assume that I have done everything including installing the bootcode, then I realize I am not happy with the scheme and I need to change. How do I wipe the whole thing in one go so that I can start afresh? gpart destroy ad4 ?? Yes, but first you must delete all of the slices/partitions. Think of it this way: you must go backwards down the path you just came with a delete for each add, then a destroy for each create. Why is there no sysinstall-style GUI for gpart? Hopefully, because sysinstall is soon going to be taken out back and shot, and its replacement will be gpart-aware and therefore GPT-aware. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
