Re: Pine Corupting Inbox

2008-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Chris Maness wrote:

I think that pine is corrupting my inbox, so that it is unreadable  
by UW-IMAPD.  When using squirrelmail after using pine I see the  
headers, but squirrelmail is unable to open the e-mails.


When you read your mail with (al)pine with it picking up mail directly  
from /var/spool/mail, (al)pine will move the mail from /var/spool/mail  
into mailbox folders in your home directory.


Now normally, this puts the mail in a place where it can still be  
picked up by uw-imap server.  Indeed, under default configurations the  
uw-imap server will perform pretty much the same action when it gets  
new mail out of /var/spool/mail.  So when everything is working right,  
even reading the mail locally with pine shouldn't mess things up as  
they have for you.


 I switched over to alpine since I do understand that pine is no  
longer supported.  If other people have experienced this it would be  
nice to have at least a notice when it is installed.  I have used  
pine for almost 10 years without this problem, but maybe this is an  
incompatability with a newer version of UW-IMAPD.


Here is what I would do to start diagnosing my first guess at the  
problem:


(1) Set up (or use) a clean vanilla user account, say fred.
(2) Send fred mail.
(3) log in as fred and have fred read mail with pine, with as close to  
a default configuration as possible.

(4) See if fred can see his mail via squirrelmail.  If so
(5) Look around ~/fred to find where pine put the mail.
(6) Compare the mail file locations for ~/fred and for you.
(7) If there are difference (which is what I'm expecting), then look  
through your .pinerc


Post back a report about how those steps go.  If things break at step  
4, then still do step (5) and report that back here.


Good luck.

Cheers,

-j


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Re: Pine Corupting Inbox

2008-04-26 Thread Chris Maness




On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:


On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Chris Maness wrote:

I think that pine is corrupting my inbox, so that it is unreadable by 
UW-IMAPD.  When using squirrelmail after using pine I see the headers, but 
squirrelmail is unable to open the e-mails.


When you read your mail with (al)pine with it picking up mail directly from 
/var/spool/mail, (al)pine will move the mail from /var/spool/mail into 
mailbox folders in your home directory.


Now normally, this puts the mail in a place where it can still be picked up 
by uw-imap server.  Indeed, under default configurations the uw-imap server 
will perform pretty much the same action when it gets new mail out of 
/var/spool/mail.  So when everything is working right, even reading the mail 
locally with pine shouldn't mess things up as they have for you.


I switched over to alpine since I do understand that pine is no longer 
supported.  If other people have experienced this it would be nice to have 
at least a notice when it is installed.  I have used pine for almost 10 
years without this problem, but maybe this is an incompatability with a 
newer version of UW-IMAPD.


Here is what I would do to start diagnosing my first guess at the problem:

(1) Set up (or use) a clean vanilla user account, say fred.
(2) Send fred mail.
(3) log in as fred and have fred read mail with pine, with as close to a 
default configuration as possible.

(4) See if fred can see his mail via squirrelmail.  If so
(5) Look around ~/fred to find where pine put the mail.
(6) Compare the mail file locations for ~/fred and for you.
(7) If there are difference (which is what I'm expecting), then look through 
your .pinerc


Post back a report about how those steps go.  If things break at step 4, then 
still do step (5) and report that back here.


Good luck.

Cheers,

-j


--
Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/

I'll check it out. Alpine is doing the same thing.  It worlks fine for a 
bit, an then no imap clients can access the mail.  Only alpine can read 
the spool.  I am not having any problems whith other users, I will have to 
try to test the spool with a fresh user like you suggested.  I might 
use aliases to send mail to this account as well.


Chris Maness
(909) 223-9179
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Re: Pine Corupting Inbox

2008-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Chris Maness wrote:


I am not having any problems whith other users,


Then my suspicion grows stronger that something in your own particular  
pine configuration is putting your mail in a place where imapd can't  
see it.  So in addition to what I've suggested, have you looked for  
any errors logged by imapd in your system logs?


Cheers,

-j

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Re: Pine Corupting Inbox

2008-04-26 Thread Chris Maness


On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:


On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Chris Maness wrote:


I am not having any problems whith other users,


Then my suspicion grows stronger that something in your own particular pine 
configuration is putting your mail in a place where imapd can't see it.  So 
in addition to what I've suggested, have you looked for any errors logged by 
imapd in your system logs?


Cheers,

-j

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No, it is leaving it on the spool.  Squirrel mail can read the headers, 
but it cannot open the mail.

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