Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-10-01 Thread guy . helmer
On Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:36:04 PM UTC-5, Mark Felder wrote: Hi guys I'm excitedly posting this from my phone. Good news for you guys, bad news for us -- we were building HA storage on vmware for a client and can now replicate the crash on demand. I'll be posting details when I get home to

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:00:40 -0500, guy.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Sep 21 02:14:55 backups kernel: (da1:mpt0:0:1:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 5 ee 60 16 0 1 0 0 Sep 21 02:14:55 backups kernel: (da1:mpt0:0:1:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error Sep 21 02:14:55 backups kernel: (da1:mpt0:0:1:0): SCSI

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-06-06 Thread Mark Felder
Hi guys I'm excitedly posting this from my phone. Good news for you guys, bad news for us -- we were building HA storage on vmware for a client and can now replicate the crash on demand. I'll be posting details when I get home to my PC tonight, but this hopefully is enough to replicate the

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-31 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:56:02 pm Mark Felder wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:17:07 -0500, John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: Humm, can you test it with 2 CPUs? We primarily only run with 1 CPU. We have seen it crash on multiple CPU VMs. Also, Dane Foster appeared to have been

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-31 Thread Mark Felder
So when this hang happens, there never is a real panic. It just sits in a state which I describe as like being in a deadlock. How would I go about getting a crashdump if it never panics? Is it possible to do the dump over a network or something because I don't believe it can write through

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-31 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:11:11 am Mark Felder wrote: So when this hang happens, there never is a real panic. It just sits in a state which I describe as like being in a deadlock. How would I go about getting a crashdump if it never panics? Is it possible to do the dump over a network

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-30 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:47:46 am Mark Felder wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:30:40 -0500, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, can you please, -please- file a PR? And place all of the above information in it so we don't lose it? I'd be glad to post a PR and assist in

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-30 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:06:13 -0500, John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: Do you only have one CPU in this VM? If not, do you know which threads the other CPUs were running (e.g. do you have ps7.png, etc.)? correct, only one CPU in the VM ___

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-30 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:17:07 -0500, John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: Humm, can you test it with 2 CPUs? We primarily only run with 1 CPU. We have seen it crash on multiple CPU VMs. Also, Dane Foster appeared to have been using multiple CPUs in his video transcoding VMs.

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:30:40 -0500, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, can you please, -please- file a PR? And place all of the above information in it so we don't lose it? I'd be glad to post a PR and assist in helping to get it permanently fixed. I certainly don't want this

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-24 Thread dane foster
Hey all, On 25/05/2012, at 1:47 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:30:40 -0500, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, can you please, -please- file a PR? And place all of the above information in it so we don't lose it? I'd be glad to post a PR and assist in helping

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-24 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 24. May 2012, at 13:47 , Mark Felder wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:30:40 -0500, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, can you please, -please- file a PR? And place all of the above information in it so we don't lose it? I'd be glad to post a PR and assist in helping to get

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-24 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, You guys now absolutely, positively have enough information for a PR. It's still not clear whether it's a device/interrupt layer issue in FreeBSD, or whether vmware is doing something wrong with how it implements shared interrupts, or a bit of both.. Adrian On 24 May 2012 13:54, dane

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, can you please, -please- file a PR? And place all of the above information in it so we don't lose it? If this is indeed the problem then I really think we should root cause why the driver and/or interrupt handling code is getting angry with the shared interrupt. I'd also appreciate it if

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-21 Thread Mark Felder
OK guys I've been talking with another user who can recreate this crash and the last bit of information we've learned seems to be leaning towards interrupts/IRQ issues like someone (bz@ perhaps?) suggested. I'm still trying to test this myself, but the other user was able to recreate my

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-21 Thread Andrew Boyer
On May 21, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Mark Felder wrote: OK guys I've been talking with another user who can recreate this crash and the last bit of information we've learned seems to be leaning towards interrupts/IRQ issues like someone (bz@ perhaps?) suggested. I'm still trying to test this

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-21 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 21 May 2012 12:01:19 -0500, Andrew Boyer abo...@averesystems.com wrote: You could try switching mpt to MSI. MSI interrupts are never shared. Add this to /boot/device.hints: hint.mpt.0.msi_enable=1 Currently implementing this on the known crashy servers. I've been looking

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Powell
Mark Felder wrote: OK guys I've been talking with another user who can recreate this crash and the last bit of information we've learned seems to be leaning towards interrupts/IRQ issues like someone (bz@ perhaps?) suggested. I'm still trying to test this myself, but the other user was able

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-21 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:47:45 -0500, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: Very curious how 'irq 22 at device 22.0' and 'dev.mpt.0.%location: slot=22' all match with a '22'. Strangely here in ESXi that doesn't work the same. Emulated BIOS must be considerably different... :/ $

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Felder
Quick update: I have received word last night that this crash has been consistently happening to someone on FreeBSD 9 and they're looking for more ideas. I changed the following 41 days ago: - Video memory to auto if it wasn't already - SCSI controller changed from LSI Logic Parallel to

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-03 Thread Mark Felder
Guys, The crash on my machine with debugging has evaded me for a few days. I'm still looking for further suggestions of things I should grab from the DDB when it happens again. Thanks for the help everyone! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 4/2/2012 3:59 PM, Joe Greco wrote: On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: As a user, you can't win. If you don't report a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it but you don't submit a

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/30/2012 07:41, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-02 Thread Joe Greco
On 03/30/2012 07:41, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: As a user, you can't win. If you don't report a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If you

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-02 Thread Joe Greco
On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: As a user, you can't win. If you don't report a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-30 Thread Joe Greco
On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-30 Thread Joe Greco
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:27:31 -0500, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: It also doesn't explain the experience here, where one VM basically crapped out but only after a migration - and then stayed crapped out. It would be interesting to hear about your datastore, how busy it is, what

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Powell
Mark Felder wrote: Alright guys, I'm at the end of my rope here. For those that haven't seen my previous emails here's the (not so) quick breakdown: Overview: FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested (Sorry, not possible in our

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:38 -0500, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: * have you filed a PR? No * is the crash easily reproducable? Unfortunately not. It's totally random. Some servers will get the bug and crash daily, some will crash weekly, some might seem to be fine but 3

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:36:49 -0500, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have changed since

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
Thank you for the suggestion. We'll put it in our toolbox and see if it helps! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
Alright, new data. It happened to crash about 10 minutes after I came in this morning and I ran some stuff in the DDB. I have no idea what information is useful, but perhaps someone will see something out of the ordinary? http://feld.me/freebsd/esx_crash/ Thanks...

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
Hi, * have you filed a PR? * is the crash easily reproducable? * are you able to boot some ramdisk-only FreeBSD-8.2 images (eg create a ramdisk image using nanobsd?) and do some stress testing inside that? It sounds like you've established it's a storage issue, or at least interrupt

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? --HPS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:58:16 -0500, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote: Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? Correct, we see both i386 and amd64 flavors crash in the same way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 16:03 29/03/2012, you wrote: Alright, new data. It happened to crash about 10 minutes after I came in this morning and I ran some stuff in the DDB. I have no idea what information is useful, but perhaps someone will see something out of the ordinary? http://feld.me/freebsd/esx_crash/

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is a disk I/O hang. The fact that it was happening regularly to that

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:49:30 Joe Greco wrote: On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is a disk

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:31:24 -0500, Eduardo Morras nec...@retena.com wrote: Don't know about ESXi but on others VM Managers i can change the chipset emulation from ICH10 to ICH4. Can you change it to an older chipset too? Unfortunately there's no setting in the GUI for that but I'll keep

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:55:36 -0500, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote: It almost sounds like the lost interrupt issue I've seen with USB EHCI devices, though disk I/O should have a retry timeout? What does wmstat -i output? --HPS Here's a server that has a week uptime and is due

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:49:30 -0500, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: I explained it at the time to one of my VMware friends: This is 100% identical to what we see, Joe! And we're so unlucky that we have this happen on probably a dozen servers, but a handful are the really bad ones.

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Jim Bryant
This sounds just like a race condition that happens under Windows 7 on this laptop. The race condition, as far as I can tell involves heavy disk access and heavy network access, and usually leaves the drive light on, while all activity monitors (alldisk, allcpu, allnetwork) are still active,

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:55:36 -0500, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote: It almost sounds like the lost interrupt issue I've seen with USB EHCI devices, though disk I/O should have a retry timeout? What does wmstat

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Atkinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/2012 07:03, Mark Felder wrote: Alright, new data. It happened to crash about 10 minutes after I came in this morning and I ran some stuff in the DDB. I have no idea what information is useful, but perhaps someone will see something out of

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:43:45 -0500 Jim Bryant articulated: Mark Felder wrote: Alright guys, I'm at the end of my rope here. For those that haven't seen my previous emails here's the (not so) quick breakdown: Overview: FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes FreeBSD

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:05:30 -0500, Mark Atkinson atkin...@gmail.com wrote: If this is an interrupt problem with disk i/o, then you might want to look into (DDB(4)) show intr show intrcount maybe show allrman Thank you! I really don't know what things we should be running in DDB to

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:24:30 -0500, je...@seibercom.net wrote: I just started reading this tread, but I am wondering if I missed something here. What does this have to do with Windows 7? I emailed him off-list but I'm guessing he thought this was on VMWare Workstation or another product

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:53:02 -0500, Alan Cox alan.l@gmail.com wrote: Not so long ago, VMware implemented a clever scheme for reducing the overhead of virtualized interrupts that must be delivered by at least some (if not all) of their emulated storage controllers:

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:49:30 Joe Greco wrote: On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: If we assume mpt is the culprit Doesn't VMWare offer different types of emulated disk controllers? If so, that might be the easiest way to narrow the field. Another thing maybe to try would be to backport the mpt Also, it's

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:53:52 -0500, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't VMWare offer different types of emulated disk controllers? If so, that might be the easiest way to narrow the field. Another thing maybe to try would be to backport the mpt Yes, they offer

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
And then there is this one with similar symptoms and a workaround: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D27899 I'm now investigating those loader.conf options. I have my crashy machine set to use them on next boot so we'll see if it crashes now that I'm using LSI SAS emulated

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:27:31 -0500, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: It also doesn't explain the experience here, where one VM basically crapped out but only after a migration - and then stayed crapped out. It would be interesting to hear about your datastore, how busy it is, what technology,

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Jerome Herman
On 28/03/2012 22:59, Mark Felder wrote: Alright guys, I'm at the end of my rope here. For those that haven't seen my previous emails here's the (not so) quick breakdown: Overview: FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested (Sorry, not

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
Again, it's starting to sound like an interrupt handling issue which may or may not be limited to the storage device. You'll have to engage someone who knows those device drivers and likely have them add some debugging to the driver which can be easily flipped on (via binaries in a ramdisk - very

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, * have you filed a PR? * is the crash easily reproducable? * are you able to boot some ramdisk-only FreeBSD-8.2 images (eg create a ramdisk image using nanobsd?) and do some stress testing inside that? It sounds like you've established it's a storage issue, or at least interrupt handling for

Re: Please help me

2010-01-20 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:10:48PM +0630, komyo gyi wrote: hi, yesterday i have modify squid.conf file.i have use vi editior.but i cannot delete in text message. following error ^? appear.How to do it?. please help me. Looks like you're hitting the Delete key. That's not a valid vi

Re: please help me make sense of top's CPU output

2009-11-03 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Dan Nelson wrote: Junior Hacker Project: add an instantaneous-CPU value (calculated by subtracting successive ki_runtime values) to the list of things top calculates and toggle it and weighted-CPU when pressing C. The toggling code is already there; it just toggles between two different

Re: please help me make sense of top's CPU output

2009-11-03 Thread Chris Rees
2009/11/3 Chris Stankevitz cstankev...@toyon.com: Dan Nelson wrote: Junior Hacker Project: add an instantaneous-CPU value (calculated by subtracting successive ki_runtime values) to the list of things top calculates and toggle it and weighted-CPU when pressing C.  The toggling code is

Re: please help me make sense of top's CPU output

2009-11-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 02), Chris Stankevitz said: I recently performed a CPU intensive task with Xorg. When I completed the task and Xorg no longer was using the CPU, I got this result from top: === last pid: 1201; load averages: 0.24, 0.10, 0.09up 0+00:29:42 63 processes: 1

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-19 Thread Heiner Strauß
Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2009, 07:59 + schrieb freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, Walt Pawley w...@wump.org said: W As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:22:11 +0200, Heiner Strauß heiner...@yahoo.de wrote: Didn't need lower case at this time. REAL PROGRAMMERS USED FORTRAN http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html When you're there, don't miss The story about Mel. By the way... we have a Mel on our mailing

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700 Walt Pawley w...@wump.org At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strauß wrote: [..] Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot. Live was so easy. Heiner C(one word = 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software) As

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-18 Thread Karl Vogel
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, Walt Pawley w...@wump.org said: W As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation is less W a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 W design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from a W limited

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, Walt Pawley w...@wump.org said: W As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation is less W a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 W design used

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700, George Davidovich free...@optimis.net wrote: Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are a thing of the past is incorrect. Furthermore, I think it wasn't a gain of comfort

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 17 August 2009 pm 16:25:29 Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700, George Davidovich free...@optimis.net wrote: Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are a thing of the past is

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects like

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier linkers and

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) The 6

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread Heiner Strauß
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-17 Thread Walt Pawley
At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strauß wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to be

RE: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-16 Thread Charles Oppermann
The average Windows user does not read what's on the screen anyway, so he will always next. :-) I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or otherwise. It does FreeBSD a disservice when its

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-16 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:54:41 -0400, Charles Oppermann chuc...@gmail.com wrote: I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or otherwise. I may apologize for that not being the case, sadly, at least

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-16 Thread George Davidovich
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:54:41AM -0400, Charles Oppermann wrote: I assume your use of MICROS~1 is some sort of clever dig at Microsoft, but this is 2009 - not 1995 Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-16 Thread Daniel Underwood
It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such. I agree only insofar as nobody is ever benefited by insulting/denigrating other users. But that's not what Polytropon was doing, I don't think. Seems to me

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 01:00:31PM -0700, Raisa Brokhshtut typed: Hello, ? My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows.?Every time when

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Montag, 10. Aug 2009, 13:00:31 -0700 schrieb Raisa Brokhshtut: My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. [...] Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows.   Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall that program. [...] So I

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Montag, 10. Aug 2009, 13:00:31 -0700 schrieb Raisa Brokhshtut: My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. [...] Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall

RE: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Charles Oppermann
Are you suggesting that continuous reinstalling of a program numerous times until it works is a Windows-only tactic? Bad software exists on every platform, in proportion to the platform's installed base. To the Original Poster: The easiest way to remove FreeBSD and get back to a Windows

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:32:20 -0400, Charles Oppermann chuc...@gmail.com wrote: Correct, and counter to another posters statement that Windows attempts to wipe entire disks when installing. Yes, that's the default choice, which is perfectly reasonable, but no Windows Setup will erase entire

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Raisa Brokhshtut wrote: My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time when I boot this PC it prompts for a user login which I

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-10 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Raisa Brokhshtutqap...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-10 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Raisa Brokhshtut wrote: Hello, My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time when I boot this PC it prompts for a user login

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-10 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT), Raisa Brokhshtut qap...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall that program. FreeBSD is not a program, it's an operating system. I don't have windows reskue cd. You don't need it, but you need

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-10 Thread Nerius Landys
My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time when I boot this PC it prompts for a user login which I don't know. This guy

Re: Please Help Me ...

2009-02-16 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:15:41AM +0330, Ali Reza wrote: Hi i am Install FreeBsd 7.1 in to Detacetad Server where Are Support Cpanel Whm .. ? Please Answer Me ... cPanel and WHM are commercial products: http://www.cpanel.net/products/cpwhm/cpanel11/index.html Apparently, they also

Re: Please help me with my PF config

2008-03-08 Thread Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto
2008/3/7, Preston Hagar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks like you already have your problem solved. One utility you might want to look at is pftop. With it, you can see pretty much in real time what is going through pf and what is being blocked. This has helped me a lot to find out which rule

Re: Please help me with my PF config

2008-03-07 Thread Preston Hagar
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/6, Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know my config is far away from a good config but it's the first time I configure an firewall, and I have only basic english knowledge, I'm not totally sure

Re: Please help me with my PF config

2008-03-06 Thread Erik Norgaard
Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: nat on $ext_if from $internal_nets to any - ($ext_if) nat on $cefet_if from $adm_net to any - ($cefet_if) rdr on $all_if proto tcp from any to any port $proxy_ports \ - 127.0.0.1 port 3128 OK, so do these nat rules actually take effect? Which one?

Re: Please help me with my PF config

2008-03-06 Thread Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto
2008/3/6, Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can add log statements to your nat rules to see which is applied. pass quick proto icmp from any to any keep state pass quick from $adm_net to $cefet_servers keep state pass quick from $cefet_servers to $adm_net keep state It appears that

Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages

2008-02-15 Thread Andrew Falanga
On Thursday 07 February 2008 15:29:29 Mel wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the unreadable sectors on the hard drive are

RE: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages

2008-02-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages Since it's a church disk, you might

Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages

2008-02-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the unreadable sectors on the hard drive

Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew Falanga
On Feb 7, 2008 3:38 PM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this drive has, but how serious are

Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages

2008-02-07 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( 100 times). If

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