Re: Poutupgrade unsafe

2006-09-18 Thread Robert Marella
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:51:06 -0300
Henry Lenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > A nice portupgrade feature would be to grok UPDATING, and present
> > you with any such notes before the upgrade occurs.
> >
> > Mike
> 
> I fully agree. It's not the best solution to have an UPDATE file that
> is very large and that is not integrated in the updating process.
> UPDATE should be machine-readable, for starters.
> 
> Henry

I do not see a problem. A script updates my port tree every night and
the last line of the script is:

head -n 50 /usr/ports/UPDATING

When I read my mail in the morning with my first cup of coffee...well,
I read my mail.

Robert
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Re: Poutupgrade unsafe

2006-09-15 Thread Henry Lenzi

A nice portupgrade feature would be to grok UPDATING, and present you with any
such notes before the upgrade occurs.

Mike


I fully agree. It's not the best solution to have an UPDATE file that
is very large and that is not integrated in the updating process.
UPDATE should be machine-readable, for starters.

Henry
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Re: Poutupgrade unsafe

2006-09-15 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/09/06 Pete Slagle said:

> This one bit me too, but we have only ourselves to blame; there was a
> clear (well, pretty clear) warning of the change in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
> 
> You would never forget to check UPDATING before running portupgrade
> would you?  :)

A nice portupgrade feature would be to grok UPDATING, and present you with any
such notes before the upgrade occurs.

Mike
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Re: Poutupgrade unsafe

2006-09-14 Thread Pete Slagle
Olivier Nicole wrote:

> I know the mistake was on my side, I was not carefull enough when
> using portupgrade on a production machine but...
> 
> Yesterday I froze our system for about one hour when I used
> portupgrade to upgrade Samba. It was a very minor upgrade (from 3.0.10
> to 3.0.23c,1 I think), but it happens that in between the 2 versions
> the location of the password file for Samba has been changed.
> 
> I beleive that the port maintener has a very good reason why to change
> this directory, but portupgrade would build and install the new Samba
> silently (if the message at the begining of the makefile did ever
> show, it was drawn into the flow of portupgrade messages) resulting
> the new Samba did not accept any connection.
> 
> I think that such modification should be considered as critical and
> portupgrade should stop and request acknowledgement before it keeps on
> installing. I am not sure the mechanism exists in portupgrade, but I
> see it as a very usefull enhancement.

This one bit me too, but we have only ourselves to blame; there was a
clear (well, pretty clear) warning of the change in /usr/ports/UPDATING.

You would never forget to check UPDATING before running portupgrade
would you?  :)

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