Re: Move to mail server? WAS Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-18 Thread Jan Grant
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Eric F Crist wrote:

> OK, I'm tired of trying to configure sendmail.  I think I give up.  I've hear
> postfix and qmail recommendations the most.  I need a mail server that can do
> a couple of things for me:
>
> 1) Host multiple domains on the same server
> 2) Easy user management and control (quotas?)
> 3) I NEED MY SPAM ASSASSIN
> 3) Webmail recommendation for this mail server.
> 4) Your love and support with what I choose... ;)
>
> Sendmail, since I've used it heavily, has become too much of a burden for me.
> Please reply with a 'vote' and possibly and howtos or 'change-over'
> instructions.  If you all recall, I've failed this once before.

They'll all do this. Personally: exim (actually, multiple exims, but
I've a rather unusual setup) as MTA, cyrus as mailstore, MailScanner in
queue-to-queue mode, and silkymail as webmail client.

Unfortunately, depending on how you want to manage your users, cyrus is
one of the "heavier" imap servers out there. I love it to bits but it
can be tricky to get exactly right. You will need some scripting to tie
your directory/authentication to cyrus quotas.

You'll probably get the same story with most roll-your-own setups. There
are a number of products that claim to be email "appliances" and you
might look at those, depending on how much preexisting infrastructure
you've got for managing virtual domains and users.

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Re: Move to mail server? WAS Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-18 Thread matthew


On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Luke Kearney wrote:

>
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:26:47 -0600
> Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> granted us these pearls of wisdom:
>
> > OK, I'm tired of trying to configure sendmail.  I think I give up.  I've hear
> > postfix and qmail recommendations the most.  I need a mail server that can do
> > a couple of things for me:
> >
> > 1) Host multiple domains on the same server
> > 2) Easy user management and control (quotas?)
> > 3) I NEED MY SPAM ASSASSIN
> > 3) Webmail recommendation for this mail server.
> > 4) Your love and support with what I choose... ;)
> >
> > Sendmail, since I've used it heavily, has become too much of a burden for me.
> > Please reply with a 'vote' and possibly and howtos or 'change-over'
> > instructions.  If you all recall, I've failed this once before.
>
> http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/
>
> is a favourite of mine and if I can install it you can too :-), pretty
> bullet proof and easy to manage not to mention scaleable.
>

http://www.courier-mta.org

'nuff said

m

> HTH
>
> LukeK
>
>
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Re: Move to mail server? WAS Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-17 Thread Luke Kearney

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:26:47 -0600
Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> granted us these pearls of wisdom:

> OK, I'm tired of trying to configure sendmail.  I think I give up.  I've hear 
> postfix and qmail recommendations the most.  I need a mail server that can do 
> a couple of things for me:
> 
> 1) Host multiple domains on the same server
> 2) Easy user management and control (quotas?)
> 3) I NEED MY SPAM ASSASSIN
> 3) Webmail recommendation for this mail server.
> 4) Your love and support with what I choose... ;)
> 
> Sendmail, since I've used it heavily, has become too much of a burden for me.  
> Please reply with a 'vote' and possibly and howtos or 'change-over' 
> instructions.  If you all recall, I've failed this once before.

http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/

is a favourite of mine and if I can install it you can too :-), pretty
bullet proof and easy to manage not to mention scaleable.

HTH 

LukeK


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Move to mail server? WAS Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-17 Thread Eric F Crist
OK, I'm tired of trying to configure sendmail.  I think I give up.  I've hear 
postfix and qmail recommendations the most.  I need a mail server that can do 
a couple of things for me:

1) Host multiple domains on the same server
2) Easy user management and control (quotas?)
3) I NEED MY SPAM ASSASSIN
3) Webmail recommendation for this mail server.
4) Your love and support with what I choose... ;)

Sendmail, since I've used it heavily, has become too much of a burden for me.  
Please reply with a 'vote' and possibly and howtos or 'change-over' 
instructions.  If you all recall, I've failed this once before.

TIA
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(612) 998-3588


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Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Eric F Crist wrote:
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 06:19 pm, Derrick wrote:

use SMTP Auth


I'll look into this.  If you have any pointers, let me know.  Thanks.
a nice little how-to on SMTP auth.  YMMV:

http://freebsdaddicts.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=13

Also covers STARTTLS (SSL SMTP access)

~j

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Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-17 Thread Eric F Crist
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 06:19 pm, Derrick wrote:
> use SMTP Auth

I'll look into this.  If you have any pointers, let me know.  Thanks.
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(612) 998-3588


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Re: Sending mail gets 'Relaying Denied' from off network.

2004-02-17 Thread matthew


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Eric F Crist wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> What is the *right* way to get rid of the relaying denied message when a user
> on another network tries to send mail via my mail server, when they have an
> account on the system?
>

On my mail machine I have sendmail.cf point to this file.

relay-access.cw

inside it it has entries like so:

2*1.11*.1*5.2   550 We don't accept mail from spammers
6*.167.174  RELAY
1.1.1.1 RELAY

after i added my NEW entry i run this

cd /etc
makemap hash /etc/relay-access < relay-access.cw

and i always kill -HUP pid_of_sendmail

m


> TIA
>
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> AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
> (612) 998-3588
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