Re: Size of /var worries me

2004-01-22 Thread parv
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg thusly...

I apologize for replying so late.


> parv wrote:
> >...only thing that i desire(d) is/was to give / much less than 128MB,
> >but couldn't (during the space slicing).
> >
> >That and to combine /usr2 & /usr3 now.  But default inode space
> >allocation of 8%/slice will kill me anyway.  I really have to remember
> >about the newfs options next time.
> >
> 
> Do you really mean inode space, or the 8% minimum free space
> treshold?

Yes, i was refererring to the inode space.  I have few large
files...

  Filesystem  1K-blocksUsed  Avail Capacity iused  ifree %iused
  /dev/ad0s2g   3106182 2532670 32501889%   60186 329188   15%
  /dev/ad0s3f984654  856366  4951695%   66158  57488   54%


> If its the later, try this:
> umount /usr && tunefs -m 0 /dev/ad-whatever && mount /usr

Something to be aware of.  If nothing, i need to at least print out
the newfs, mount, and tunefs man pages.  Thanks.


  - Parv

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Re: Size of /var worries me

2004-01-12 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
parv wrote:
...only thing that i desire(d) is/was to give / much less than 128MB,
but couldn't (during the space slicing).
That and to combine /usr2 & /usr3 now.  But default inode space
allocation of 8%/slice will kill me anyway.  I really have to remember
about the newfs options next time.
Do you really mean inode space, or the 8% minimum free space treshold?

If its the later, try this:
umount /usr && tunefs -m 0 /dev/ad-whatever && mount /usr
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Re: Size of /var worries me

2004-01-07 Thread parv
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote Dino Vliet thusly...
>
> I've installed freebsd 4.9 and am currently busy with installing third
> party apps through the ports collection.  What worries me however is
> the size of my /var directory.  Take a look at my disk geometry
> (below)
> 
> I also had to get rid of a pkg.db file in the /var/db/pkg directory
> because it took a lot of space.

Unless that file os part of the core pkg* facilities, you have shot your
foot.


> q2) How can I get rid of files I don't need (like
> XFree86.0.log..)
> Other suggestions are welcome...

See syslogd(8), syslog(3), syslog.conf(5) & newsyslog(8).


> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
> 
> /dev/ad0s2a 126M 35M 81M 30% /
> 
> /dev/ad0s2f 98M 10.0K 91M 0% /tmp
> 
> /dev/ad0s2g 6.6G 1.5G 4.5G 25% /usr
> 
> /dev/ad0s2e 74M 67M 978K 99% /var

How do you feel about merging /tmp w/ /var and mounting /tmp on swap
partition, that you did not list, as memory file system?

Mind that core '/usr', here, occupies ~263 MB, minus perl, sendmail,
and fortran part of the base compiler suite.  You could divide your
current '/usr' to be ~400MB slice for only core components, move
'/var' to rest of the '/usr' slice, say '/usr2'.  That will left you
w/...

  swap  (/tmp on swap)
  /~100 MB
  /usr ~400 MB
  /usr2  (/var symlinked to /usr2/var)


...but that is just one way to organize.  Your pattern of usage
will/should control if /tmp can be mounted on swap, and if to keep
/var as a directory not a slice.

Some would say just to keep separate / and combine everything else,
resulting in three slices: swap, /, /usr.

Also, newfs'ing procedure might itself constrain the space allocated
to a slice.

== xx ==

Here is my current layout...

  Filesystem  1K-blocksUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s2a128990   82322   3635069%/
  /dev/ad0s2e516062  453968   2081096%/usr
  /dev/ad0s2g   3106182 2569086  28860290%/usr2
  /dev/ad0s3f984654  859182   4670095%/usr3
  /dev/ad0s3e   1753902  466558 114703229%/cdrw
  mfs:15 372846   6  343014 0%/tmp

  Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
  /dev/ad0s2b37730451740   32556414%Interleaved


...only thing that i desire(d) is/was to give / much less than 128MB,
but couldn't (during the space slicing).

That and to combine /usr2 & /usr3 now.  But default inode space
allocation of 8%/slice will kill me anyway.  I really have to remember
about the newfs options next time.

Here is the holding pattern of each slice...

  /- usual stuff

  /usr - large ports -- erlang, gcc, & java -- related files besides
  core components as listed above

  /usr2 - 'home', 'local' & 'X11R6', and some ports related files

  /usr3 -  'sup' tree for cvsup & ports tree.

  /cdrw - keeps 'src' tree & used for world building; works as port
  building space now that space on /usr3 is diminishing

  /tmp  - mounted on swap; rarely gets heavy use.


  - Parv

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Re: Size of /var worries me

2004-01-07 Thread Jez Hancock
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 01:38:35AM -0800, Dino Vliet wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I've installed freebsd 4.9 and am currently busy with
> installing third party apps through the ports
> collection.
> What worries me however is the size of my /var
> directory.
You might consider symlinking /var to /usr/var perhaps - unless you have
any other spare space that you can allocate to the /var fs - 67MB is
quite small, especially if you intend to use any databases at any point
in time.

The best way to go about symlinking /var to somewhere else is to go into
single user mode at boot time (or kill all processes that use anything
under /var), move /var to /usr/var and then symlink /var to /usr/var.

This isn't really the best solution in terms of performance (although
you wouldn't notice on a low load system), but unless you have extra
free disk space you can allocate to /var or are prepared to reinstall -
allocating more space to /var in the installation - then the symlinking
option is viable.

> I also had to get rid of a pkg.db file in the
> /var/db/pkg directory because it took a lot of space.
As a note, the pkg.db file is quite important - port installations
register themselves in the /var/db/pkg/pkg.db database and this is used
to check on dependencies etc, a little bit like the windows registry is
used (only a little!).  Generally deleting files from under /var isn't
the best solution :P

> q1) Do I have to worry about my /var q2) How can I get rid of files I don't need (like
> XFree86.0.log..)
As mentioned above it's generally not a good idea to delete files from
/var/ on an ad-hoc basis.  A better plan:

organize a logfile rotation policy so that old logfiles are rotated out
of /var/log into a backup location which has enough space.  See the
manpage on newsyslog for info on this.

configure daemons so that they only log what is absolutely necessary for
your needs.

-- 
Jez Hancock
 - System Administrator / PHP Developer

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